May you all have peace!
Dear JM, you said:
"But we are permitted to make judgements regarding individuals as shown after full disclosure of the facts and such judgment cannot be dictated to us."
To that, may I respond that, indeed, we are "permitted". However, our Lord TAUGHT us how we should be, for although he himself transgressed not ONE single Law, he neither judged nore condemned anyone under it, either. Although the Law not only PERMITTED... but REQUIRED him to. Leviticus 5:1
And yet, he taught us NOT the Law... but the Law's FULFILLMENT, LOVE: Matthew 7:1-5, Luke 6:37; John 8:11
Thus, all things that we want men to do to US... we must do to them. And me? I want "men"... and God... to forgive my transgressions and show mercy when I have erred against them. I am, then, obligated to do the same.
When posed with such problems our Lord expects us to judge others but He also expects us to make the right choices not evil ones.
Actually, our Lords WANTS... and expects... us to forgive... just as HE forgave... and to release... just as HE released.
Luke 7:43 Simon answered and said, I suppose that he, to whom he forgave most. And he said unto him, Thou hast rightly judged.
I guess reminding you that this was a hypothetical/parable wouldn't make any difference, would it, and you would still take this to mean that my Lord sanctioned our judging... although he vehemently warned against it? Think of the context, Joe, please. For otherwise, you lend yourself to those who think my Lord contradicted himself, which he didn't. Thus, quoting only PART of the record is deceptive, though I know you don't intend it to be. But you can certainly understand that someone not as... ummmm, 'intelligent' as yourself could take this one part of the entire and claim that Peter actually judged an individual and my Lord agreed with the judgment. And that simply was not the case... was it?
Dearest DF'd... may I now respond to you? Thank you!
First, I am directed by my Lord to ask you for what REASON was Paul 'chosen' as an apostle 'to the nations'? There is the erroneous belief taught by many, including the WTBTS, that Paul was 'faithful', although superzealous and misled. While these things are true, for the most part, they are not the reason. (Actually, Paul only LEARNED faith AFTER having an empirical event occur... which is not faith... for faith is the assured expection of the things hoped for, the evident demonstration of realities... though NOT beheld. Although struck blind so that he could not see, Paul did "behold" a flashing light...)
Second, you asked:
Let me get this straight (I'm trying to clarify a few of your statements): You are saying that you do NOT believe that the 4 Gospels are Inspired by God, correct?
That is correct. For a writing to be 'inspired', the writer has to be 'in the spirit' (for that's what "inspired" REALLY means, but we who speak "English" tend to mistransliterate a whole bunch of stuff because we want/need it to fit our paradigm, as "religion" has taught it to us). The writer is "in the spirit" and God, through Christ, is speaking TO them or telling them WHAT to write, as well as TO write it. See Revelation 1:19
Also, you believe that only SOME of what Paul wrote was Inspired, correct? (By the way, how do you decide what to "Pick-And-Choose" as being Inspired or not?)
Paul tends to tell you when the holy spirit is directing him. See 1 Corinthians 7:10, 12, 25
Let me ask a real big question, since you believe that only the writings of Moses, the Prophets, the Psalms, and Revelation were Inspired by God,
Well, excluding the Revelation, which had not been written yet, that is what LUKE said, and my Lord verified to me. See Luke 24:27, 32, 44, 45. And as I was permitted to share with you before, Luke SAID where he got his information (not from God!), and who he was writing for (not Israel, Jews OR christians, but to Theophilus!). A truly 'inspired' writer will give the GLORY to Jah, DF'd... for such one knows that what he/she "received" is not his/her. Paul never said God/Christ directed him to write. He was simply sharing what he understood, as I am doing now.
and all the other writings in the Bible were written by MEN without Inspiration by God, how is it that you came to know about Jesus Christ (Yeshua Messiah)?
Wonderful! Indeed, the scriptures WERE written by men "as they were BORNE ALONG by holy spirit!" And such ones SAID, "And JAH said to me..." etc., etc., etc. None of the Gospel writers said such a thing, but simply wrote a record of what occurred, as they saw it or were told it, while the Master resided here in the flesh. I know ABOUT him because of what is written, in the scriptures, chronologies, histories, gospels (goods news according to, or good news spoken of by), and epistles (letters). I KNOW my Lord, however, because he himself revealed himself TO me.
If you say that the 4 Gospels were NOT Inspired, how can you trust ANYTHING that Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John wrote about JESUS?
FIRST, just because something IS inspired does not make it trustworthy, does it? Indeed, are we not to TEST the inspired expression for the very fact that not ALL inspired expression originate with God?! Second, I know what to trust... and NOT to trust... because I heed the words at John 5:39, 40. And thus, rather than putting my trust in earthling man... I go the ONE about whom such things were written... and ASK! "How am I to understand this, Lord?" "What did this one truly mean when he wrote...?"
And actually, I have VERY little occasion to do that, for when I listen and OBEY the voice of my Lord, in turn, HE tells me what such and such meant. And he NEVER lies to me.
Proverbs 8:4-11
Also, how does the Lord talk to you?
With his voice. From above the Ark of my Covenant with JAH, for which he (my Lord) mediates. He resides within my temple and speaks from there. And yes, I hear him... quite clearly.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Ephesians 2:19-21 John 10:1-3, 27
Does He give you special information that no one else knows?
Actually, at times it does seem that way, but I am sure that SOMEWHERE someone else gets it, too, for the things he tells me I know he wishes to tell ALL of his sheep; in fact, ALL of mankind. But not all wish to 'hear', sooooo... But I am not different than the ones before me who heard: I am sure that when THEY said "God/Christ told me such and such," they were met with the same disbelief. For as Korah said, "We are all of us holy," and so why should JAH just speak to one or two or three? Truly, for the same reason as back then... although JAH had Moses congregate ALL of the people before the mountain... it was, after all, the PEOPLE... who did not WANT to hear. Did that stop such ones from professing that they indeed heard? No. Me? I can't help it; it was a "gift" of the spirit that was bestowed upon me... and I received/accept it... willingly... and the responsibility that comes with it.
1 Corinthians 12:10
That's what it sounded like you were saying, but I just want to clarify.
Did you? I am not certain that what I said is what you expected. I THINK you expected me to backtrack and deny what I know to be true. I sincerely apologize, but I can't do that, for to do so would be to deny the Christ... just as Peter did... when I know better. I have less desire to disappoint him (and my being ashamed of him before men, by denying that I indeed hear his voice for fear of being thought "mad"... would do that)... than I have of disappointing you.
If you want to know what I hear and how I hear, dear DF'd, may I ask you to click on "Members" above, and find my name ("AGuest") and click on threads posted or commented on by me. That should help you get a fairly good picture of what it is you wish to know.
I bid you peace, both you and dear Joseph, and I am your servant, as I am servant to ALL those of the Household of God, Israel, as well as those that go with them, by means of a true anointing with the 'water of life', the spirit of the Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, whose name is JAH... of Armies... by means of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH,
SJ, a slave of Christ
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