TeeJay,
You said,
You guys are killing me!!! Before it's over, Yeru, you're going to be blaming The Greatest President of the Twentieth Century for Hurricane Isidore! Jeepers!!
No way would I blame President Reagan for a Hurricane. However, if your implication is that Clinton was the greatest president of the 20th Century then all I can say is BULL SH*T! The man was and is a liar, a womanizer, and a cretin.
Liza, if it's the haves verses the have nots then why is Clinton a Democrat? The man is and was (thanks to Hilary) FILTHY RICH, as is "Babs Streisand, and countless others, the average income of the participants of the Democratic National Convention was over $90,000. No, what the problem is is that the Dems want to solve all problems by throwing OUR money at it rather than dealing with core issues. I make well less than 36,000 a year. If my income was figured hourly my 12 hour days would add up fast, not to mention the 24 and 36 hour days I've had to pull, my time away from home and family (at one time I had spent over half my married life away from wife, family, and home. Yet I'm a republican. Me, a guy that used to get welfare, am a Republican.
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It never ceases to amaze me when I see people blindly defending the Republican party and Dumb Ass Dubya as if they are infallible.
I've said the Republicans or Bush are infallible? No, I've said I believe the course he and they want to set for the nation is better than than of Clinton.
Fact - The United States enjoyed the greatest period of prosperity in the financial markets in it's history (.com explosion, etc) during the Clinton Administration. Do you deny that? Or shall I pull up substantiated evidence of the GDP and economic prosperity this nation enjoyed in the late 1990's versus the general downturn since Bush was inaugurated?
This great economic growth was an overinflated economy that HAD to crash. It was allowed to grow like that because Clinton allowed the folks at ENRON, WORLDCOM, etc to cook the books. And don't forget that the GAO has already stated the Clinton figures in the last year of his reign were inflated by 30%. Further, the recession Bush inherited began under Clinton. There is no denying that fact, or that the Tax cut has pulled us out of this recession.
Oh I suppose Clinton is to blame for the economy that Bush Sr. and Reagan incited before he was ever President? PLEASE.
Actually, because of what Reagan did in office and then Bush, who's agenda was thrown off by the first Iraq war, the economy grew under Clinton. Probably had a LOT to do with DEREGULATION and not being required to spend as much on defense because of the END OF THE COLD WAR.
Clinton in office = economic prosperity, robust economy
You forgot to add needless intervention in Bosnia (he should have used his influence to get Europe to take responsibility for it) embarrasment of the nation and our military in Somalia because he wouldn't let commanders have the equipment they said they needed, and he pulled the Marines out. You also didn't mention that he wanted to create a "Health Care" system that would have consumed 7% of the GNP and would have lead to our paying taxes like the Germans (who pay upwards of 50% in taxes). You also forgot to mention bombing a babyformula factory in Sudan to take the heat off himself for Monica "Mouth Peice" Lewinsky.
W Bush in office = war with Iraq, recession, bad economy
All of which Bush inherited from Clinton.
Can you say Halliburton Company scandal etc for Bush and Cheney? You act like the Republican party is snow white. For Christ's sake, how can you get more hypocritical than to push legislation to prevent CEO's from committing actions on behalf of their own financial interest that HE HIMSELF did 10 years ago?
Can you say that ENRON execs had more access to Clinton than any other folks outside of politics.
You also said the war with Iraq. HA!
Was not Desert Storm BEFORE Clinton went into office? Forgive me if I am wrong, but Bush Sr was responsible for getting the military within sight of Baghdad, and then LEAVING Hussein in power
. Yes, DS was BEFORE Clinton, and I've said time and again that the US made a mistake by not taking out Saddam then, I wonder if this was due to all the pressure from the Democrats? Actually though, it was Bush 1 bowing to world opinion (which is why we should NEVER trust the UN or World Opinion, but rather do what is in our best interests. HOWEVER, what I meant about WAR with Iraq, is that the current mess is here in part because Clinton ignored Iraq.
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When you mix a lie with truth the statement becomes a lie.
I've mixed opinions with facts, it's called politics, I've stated NO LIES
Of course, if you want to get down to it.. Bush is an illegitimate President in my book. Over a MILLION more people across this nation voted for Al Gore. So much for the will of the people being heard huh? Ironic that the state that comes into question during the scandal had his brother as Governor.. and when the case went to the Supreme Court the Justices who voted in Bush's favor were appointed by.. you guessed it.. his dear old Dad.
That arguement is TIRED and doesn't hold water, regardless of who counted the votes, or how the votes were counted, Bush won Florida, and therefore the Election. Gore dirtied politics beyond all reckoning by forcing this into the Supreme court. Gore, who wanted to discount all the military absentee ballots. Plus, lets not forget that the majority of absentee ballots aren't counted anyhow because of ridiculous requirements, plus the millions of folks who didn't vote on because of the announcement that Gore won Florida. Bush is the LEGALLY ELECTED president. If Gore couldn't win his own state, he didn't need to be President. THANK GOD we had Bush in office for 9-11, Gore would have bombed an abandoned Al Qaeda training camp and proclaimed victory!
He sure pushes the War on Terror agenda continously. It is his saving grace.
It's his Job as President.
9/11 saved his Presidency from being plagued as one of the WORST in the last 100 years. I wont go off on any further rant because personally I cant fucking stand any of the greedy bastards.
That is indeed a subject for great debate, and we'll never know. Which Greedy bastards ya talking about, the Dems or Reps?
Have a nice time responding to my post. Im sure you will find some excuse to use so that you can bastardize the Democratic party and make the GOP look like the knights in shining armor. (gimme a mother fv<|<ing break)
The Democrat's hypocracy has bastardized the Party enough, I don't have to do so.
Both parties are guilty. How can you continuously defend one over the other?
I can agree with the first half of that statement. I defend the Republicans because I think the road they lead us on is correct.
Edited by - Yerusalyim on 27 September 2002 9:55:57
