this queenie I am 4 THIS young lady ---- BTW is this CAN internationaL E-MAIL COLLEGE LEARNING is what I mean.. I am in the USA and legally DISABLED..E-MAIL education is at a minum to say the least that I know of AROUND THESE HERE [email protected] I am interested in taking one course at a time LIKE taking one day at a time...PROGRESS not PERFECTION
Urgent Assistance Required by Anyone, Ladylee?
by Celtic 25 Replies latest jw friends
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sunshineToo
Last week, the JW parents of this young lady, burn't all of her baby and young childhood pictures right in front of her, telling her further that she was now considered completely cut off from her natural family.
My god! What has she done to deserve this? No matter what, they shouldn't have done this to their own child. Is she adopted by any chance? My goodness! This is awful! Talk about how unloving Christian conduct!
Celtic, tell this young lady that I'm thinking of her, and (with evil smile) that she should tell all her parents' RVs about what they did.
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Wolfgirl
Celtic, if you get an email with an .fr at the end, that's me. Bloody French ISP is worthless...I don't normally give out my email addy, so let me know if you got it or not. Ta.
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outnfree
Dear 'C':
I am very sorry that you felt such despair that you tried to take your own life. I understand you feel extremely hurt and isolated right now, despite Adele's loving concern. When we are down and feeling blue, we usually want our mommies -- and the WT has stolen yours from you. What a tragedy!
I agree with the opinion of one poster above that living well is the best revenge. You are valuable not only in Mark and Adele's eyes, but in God's eyes. You must remember that He cares for you. As you go through your post-Jehovah's Witness struggles, your emotions will be on a roller coaster ride. (I'm sure you've already experienced this!) It is a mourning period, with all the attendant anger, grief, despair, guilt and what-ifs. You must understand that even if you sinned you are worthy of forgiveness. You are worthy of love.
We here at JWD are willing to wrap our cyber-arms around you and listen to you. The real you. The uncensored you with all your doubts, fears and foibles. You need not couch your words nor bury your true feelings. We will not condemn you for thinking or acting contrary to your JW upbringing.
The Witness organization is very cold and unloving and begets the kind of cold and unlovingly detached acts of scorn that your parents recently demonstrated. I hope in time you will find it in your heart to forgive THEM. They are in need of forgiveness and mercy. They need help in learning what is meant to truly love.
Suicide is often described as an act of self-hatred. I am sure -- positive, even -- that you have not done anything so awful that you should hate yourself.
Please consider this new chance at a new life as something that was meant to be. You have an opportunity now to get to know 'C' all over again, to explore how 'C' really feels, to learn what 'C' really wants. Please find a therapist with whom you feel comfortable and accept this new chance for happiness. Yes, happiness IS possible for you (even though you may severely doubt that just now)!
My e-mail is open and my heart is full of concern.
Thanks to Mark, too, for his big heart!
You are precious, 'C'!
outnfree
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Celtic
Thankyou everyone for your kind thoughts, they are being passed along to the appropriate parties, keep your messenges of warmth coming!!
Cheers
Celty
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Joyzabel
Mark,
I am so sorry to hear about this young woman. Her attempted suicide is a cry for help and Im glad your friend was there to save her.
What her parents did to her is horrible but she needs the help of professionals in dealing with all the mental abuse she has had in her past. You, Mark, maybe able to reason with her on the conditional love of the jws and show her that the conditional love is not right.
Right now her whole world is crashing down and she may feel that she has nowhere to go and life outside the organization is worthless. But that is not the case; it is only what the organization has taught its members. Tell her it will take time, but she will learn that life is very fulfilling and rewarding without the guilt of living up to anyones expectations but her own. Her need now is to learn to love herself. She was never taught to put herself first but always others.
When she is able, you might want to introduce her to Crisis of Conscience so that she can see that the organization is built on lies. I hate to think of people being thrown out of the organization and for the rest of their lives they think they have left the truth. She needs to understand that she was part of a high control group (cult) and that what her parents did to her was not normal but the influence of that group.
Please let us know how this young lady is doing. And if you ever want to introduce her to us here on JWD, you know she would get plenty help healing from cult thing.
Hugs to the young lady,
Hugs to Adele for helping her,
Hugs to Mark for trying to help too and reaching out to others.
j2bf
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Celtic
Thankyou Joy, especially yourself, I might be calling on you for assistance tomorrow if that is ok with you.
Kindest regards
Mark xx
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mouthy
((((hug))))to the young lady. I know how your feel right now my dear. I am a 75 year old grandmother .
I was a JW for over 20 years. When they kicked me out & my daughter -Grandchildren- great grandchildren didnt want to associate with me any more -I wanted to kill my self too.
But the best is yet to come my love- That was in 1987- & now we have a wonderful support group
of Ex JW who love me UNCONDITIONALLY..And beleive me I am hard to love........
If you want an understaning shoulder to cry on I am Grace Gough at [email protected].
Just hang in there -in about 6 months you will be thinking - Boy what a relief!!!!!((((HUG))))XXXX
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pandora
'C'
As so many have told you before, you are not alone. I too was thrown out of my home at an early age. The pain of seperation from my mother was unbearable. I know how it feels when your own mother rejects you. There are times when I can still feel that pain.
That happened nearly 20 years ago. I made it thru. I did it with the help of the 'truely' loving 'wordly' people around me. People who are friends of mine to this day. People who would not leave me stranded for any reason. 'Wordly' people who showed more love to me than ANY of the Jehovah's Witnesses that SAID they were my friends.
You will need to realize the definition of TRUE friendship. True friendship transends religous bounderies. You have found a friend in Adele. Keep her near to you and realize that SHE is the definition of true friendship.
You will find those types of friends here. We have all been touched in some way by the 'fair weather friendship' that excists within the orginization, and we all learned from our experiences what NOT to do. How NOT to act. Those horrible things have already been done to us. Most here would never inflict that pain on another. Our pain is still too fresh in our minds.
Feel free to vent here at any time. You always have a listening ear.I must agree with another poster, also. Therapy was of great help to me. I had to be strong when I was seperated from my family, and for the most part I did well. But it was like an act for me. I put on that strong face and did what had to be done to survive in the world on my own. But it wasn't until I got therapy that I finally FELT strong. It took a while for me to realize that it wasn't an act. It was ME. Me, being strong. I had it in me to do what had to be done. And so do you. You ARE strong.
Now for the happy ending. Remember one thing, your future is NOT pre- defined. You are your own destiny, and the Jehovah Witnesses that tell you your future is over are WRONG!! Think about it, they have been preaching their Armegeddon for a very long time. They have always said it would be soon. They have been wrong all along. They are NOT right now.
Go outside into the sunlight, look up, breath the newly fresh air and reailize, it's all your's. There are no limitations any more. The future is yours to do with as you please. You control it. You can do it, with a little help from those around you.
The best revenge is living well and being happy. You owe it to yourself to do both. You DESERVE both.
((((((C)))))))
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DJ
Hello Sweetie,
I know what it is like to feel hated too. You are not alone. There are tons of us~! HUGS, HUGS and more Hugs to you. We love you. The JW's forget what love is. I am sorry that your parents have done this, we have experienced the pain also. We are here for you! You are loved by us. It will get better in time, I promise! I am across the pond in the states and you are welcome in my home if you need to get away. If it is ok with Adele, that is! My e-mail is not open but I will give it to you. Write me for anything at all, anytime. I'm here for you , darlin. This is not your fault! You are loved.
[email protected] Love and Hugs, DJ
p.s. please be sure to put something like XJW in the subject line of the e-mail, so I don't miss it! I would love to hear from you, if you get a chance. (((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))