How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

by jwleaks 40 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse

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  CalebInFloroda

  While a very good question, one has to remember that children generally do not join atheist organizations. Unlike religious movements, rarely are all families involved and then rarely do these groups consist of regular and repeated situations where children are left to fend for themselves for hours at a time.

  Religious groups generally have activities and schools designed to teach children and get them involved. Religious practice is generally taught from infancy in some of these cases, and religious groups have clergy who may be entrusted with children for varying lengths of time without parental supervision. Unless a non-religious organization does the same things this would be a classic "apples and oranges" situation that would prove little.

  Instead we need to find if any non-religious organizations have similar patterns and then compare those that do, and then we would have data worth something.
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  nicolaou

  I'm taking the question to refer to any secular organisation. atheism and secularity are often taken together

  Then your question is misleading and unfair. Your own examples of Hospital Trusts, the UN and Political Parties in government do indeed show how organisations don't need to be comprised of religious believers or even have a religious agenda to be guilty of covering up child abuse.

  But what on earth does this have to do with atheists or atheism?!

  Nothing at all, define your terms and try again. I think I understand what you're trying to get at but this topic is too sloppily and lazily slung together in this tetchy atheists opinion.
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  rebel8

  Boy Scouts is a religious org.

  op, good point. It'll be interesting to see if there ever have been.
  
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  nicolaou

  Ruby, my sincere apologies. I thought this was your topic but have just seen that it's jwleaks. I think my points remain valid but I clearly cocked up a bit there . .
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  Ruby456

  Yes calebinflorida and in the past the concern was on abuse within the family because that is where it seemed to happen the most. Nowadays the concern is to do with abuse committed by people who are outside the family as well as within. So organisations have been coming under scrutiny as well since the the latter part of the twentieth century.

  It looks as though with legal remedies being more available to address the issue of sexual abuse and also the cultural shift in now emphasizing issues of child vulnerability and their need for protection more than in the past organisations are required to have safeguarding policies in place and are being penalized for not doing so if abuse has been committed during their watch.
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  Ruby456

  I don't understand what you mean nic. are you seriously asking if there are any atheist organisations that have been accused of covering up sexual abuse? or like jwleaks are you doing research?
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  LoveUniHateExams

  Thoughtful OP.

  Although not an 'atheist organisation' there have been widespread rumours and allegations of child abuse in the Westminster bubble. I believe that Lord Janner can now stand trial to answer accusations of child abuse.

  The late Cyril Smith MP allegedly had a perverted taste for underage boys and apparently indulged in child abuse. When it came to sexual relations, the gut-bucket politician was much more liberal than most.

  I think that this could be the tip of the iceberg. There could even be (or have been) a paedophile ring operating at Westminster.
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  Ruby456

  apparently there is a labour MP too who is being investigated.
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  nicolaou

  Ruby; I must hold my hands up and admit to being in the wrong here. I posted in haste without properly reading the topic title and OP. Shame on me.

  My mistaken point was that it's unfair to conflate secular organisations and atheist ones when the topic title specifically and only asks about atheist organisations.

  But of course, the topic included 'irreligious' organisations too didn't it?

  A lesson learned . .
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  Ruby456

  its okay nicolau.

  I'm taking it that jwleaks is researching the subject and if that is the case then all the terms of the question are open to questioning. so don't worry.