How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse? (page 3)

Vidiot

I've never heard of it happening in progressive/liberal religions.

Ruby456

psychoanalysis has been accused of covering up child sexual abuse.

Phizzy

What would it prove if you could find an Atheist/irreligious Organization that had covered up Child Abuse ?

Of course , I do not think you have phrased the Thread Title well.

There are very few, if any Atheist Organizations, or Organizations that totally exclude the religious.

What exactly are you trying to get at ?

What is the point of this Thread ?

The point for me, Phizzy, is that religions like Jehovahs witnesses in controlling every aspect of an individual's life can be forced to lessen their control owing to bad publicity and to people leaving them.

So for me it isn't that sexual abuse does not happen in liberal organisations but that in comparing different organisations we learn something valuable about cultic high control groups.

edit: we also learn how very strange our world is - good beneficial things can come out of the worst possible scenarios. the detective work is also worth the effort. plus I really like jwleaks' website

jws

I think the question is an apples to oranges comparison. Atheists don't have the organizational stucture the same as religion has. It's non-belief, not belief. There's not as much of an attempt to control people, come to church, etc. They both have meetings, but different.

You could look at places for children where there might be a lot of molestation going on all over the country. But most of these places are non-religious based. And I think the post is to say atheists are more moral than religious people.

It's a mix of children and older perverts. That can happen anywhere you have an environment where adults have authority over children. Could be the baby sitter. A daycare. A school. The scouts. Many of which may not be atheist, but are not religious. Could be atheist or religious.

And I'd bet if there were atheist organizations that are similar (like a campout for kids), there's a chance the person in charge could have a scandal.

Coverups? It's up to the people to decide that. Any organization could cover up something scandalous. My own personal observation is that atheists tend to be more liberal and liberals don't try to do the old stodgy "keep up appearances" thing. Just my opinion though.

jwleaks

disposable hero of hypocrisy - Sorry for the big paste, but this is from Wikipedia...

disposable - Thanks for the Wiki link. I would imagine it is a safe bet that none of these organizations would have policies that come anywhere near the JW's in relation to the handling of child molestation within their group, let alone the "two witness" rule.

cofty - What is an "atheist organisation"?

cofty - The OP was something that I was asked recently. My guess was that an "atheist organisation" would have at least be registered under a law as a legal entity and at the least have an Articles of Association.

ruby456 - thanks for the UN cover up link. I have just gone through the Wikileaks documents.

CalebInFloroda - children generally do not join atheist organizations

CalebInFloroda - good point.

nicolaou - I myself have found the question challenging the more I go into it which is why I included by "atheist" and "irreligious" in the title and op. Of course child abuse would not stop if there was no religion but the vast majority occurs within religion, with the abuser claiming religious affiliation. All points aside, it's not the abuser that was the subject but rather the propensity of the organization to cover up.

cofty

My guess was that an "atheist organisation" would have at least be registered under a law as a legal entity and at the least have an Articles of Association.

Thanks but I was more curious about the word atheist than the word organisation.

Just because an organisation does not have explicitly religious aims and objectives doesn't make it atheist.

jwleaks

Phizzy - What would it prove if you could find an Atheist/irreligious Organization that had covered up Child Abuse ?
Of course , I do not think you have phrased the Thread Title well.
There are very few, if any Atheist Organizations, or Organizations that totally exclude the religious.
What exactly are you trying to get at ?
What is the point of this Thread ?

Phizzy, the information is being collected, including any feedback they can get, for someone who plans to present it to the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission. The subject of the thread title is "atheist organizations" and "irreligious organizations". The key points in the title is "have been accused of the covering up" of child abuse.

Phizzy

A worthy endeavour. I still do not see the need for the labels used really, simply compare ostensibly secular organizations with religious ones. If that needs to be done. Once again, as with most Labels, it is probably not easy to see what Organizations fall totally in one camp or the other.

Any Org. that covers up Abuse, whatever its affiliations, should be reported to the Commission.

How many Atheist organizations or irreligious organizations have been accused of the covering up child abuse?

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