by Celtic 80 Replies latest jw friends
Hi JT,
I can only speak for myself of course. I would welcome them as victims as well. They would need major support from those of us who can understand the concept of the power of the mind control. I think that they would be unspeakably devastated if/when they ever come to their senses. I would be there to help them see that the teaching of hate which is shunning only leads to hateful actions which is the direct opposite of love. I also think that they would need major counseling. dj
Email sent:
Hello again Bill (O' [email protected]),
As you know, or perhaps aren't as aware as you should
be, of how many emails I actually HAVE sent you over
the last two years re: the Watchtower Bible and Tract
Society, in New York, (can't imagine you aren't
'familiar' with) which headquarters the religious
group, the jehovah's witnesses, is in various media on
and off the net these days...
The RAND stockholdings, connections with U.N., funding
navy 'tools', PEDOPHILIA, lawsuits, etc. (corruption)
Yesterday a young SHUNNED/DISFELLOWSHIPPED girl KILLED
HERSELF. Why?
Her jw parents burned her baby photos in front of her
and said:(first thread 'asking for help')
<http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37261&site=3&page=1
UPDATE (ACTUALLY REPORT ON SUICIDE):
<http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37168&site=3
:
Bill, what MADELYNE TOOGOOD did was horric, yes.
What that woman did in the desert yesterday to her
small kids (stab them, one dead) is horrific, yes.
SO IS BURNING BABY PHOTOS IN FRONT OF YOUR GROWN BABY!
I REPORT, YOU DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO NAIL THIS
ORGANIZATIONS SHUNNING DOCTRINES, that drive kids to
suicide.
Sincerely, s. f., west coast, california
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How incredibly heartbreaking.
How incredibly infuriating.
There exist no words to decribe the depth of heartache - no words to describe the depth of anger at the parents and the WTS.
Mimilly
Truly awful news, my heart goes out to the people affected.
How many more lives must be sacrificed on the alter of the GBs arrogance?
The words of anger have been said, and rightly so.
I could not pass by this thread and fail to add my words of total support, and sincere condolances to Adele and to yourself ,Celtic, who made a great gesture on the girl's behalf a couple of days ago.
What kind of heartless bastards could treat their daughter that way ? Even if she had mis behaved, she was still a teenager, still there to be saved. She was but 16 when baptised, quite old by modern standards in the Borg but a chilling indictment of a policy of tying youngsters to dedication when they are still immature.
THERE WAS NO CALL UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES FOR THE PARENTS TO BEHAVE LIKE THAT
May she rest in peace.
The WTS played a hugh part in my dad's suicide. It sickens me to hear this has happened again!!! I'm so sorry, I'm simple lost for words.
I am stunned and Pissed Off. ANGRY!
Having watched a portion of the Vicki Boer trial here in Toronto, I feel like I am thinking like a lawyer. So here is what I am thinking, based on what has been provided in this and the other thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=37168&site=3)
There is a reasonably clear cause and effect here, and a reasonable expectation that the parents bizarre (but normal by JW shunning standards) behavior could push her over the edge.
In other words, there should be manslaughter charges laid against the parents, for their action directly precipitated the suicide of this emotionally injured person.
*** Call the cops *** and convince them to do what is right and pursue criminal charges for manslaughter.
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((((Celtic & Adele))))
This is awful.
Mark,
I am crying. Poor child. My condolences to you and especially Adele and her family. My grief is great to hear of another WT DF'g-related suicide. I wish you peace after sorrow.
JT wrote:
same with these parents While many may dog them for what they have done and perhaps rightly so in on sense, can you imagine the pain they will have in a few years if they realize this AIN'T THE TRUTH - they will feel that they helped kill thier own daughter
These parents were particularly emotionally brutal -- as evidenced by the burning of the pictures for emphasis as they cut her dead. And yes, I agree we must look to the type of an organization that could indoctrinate parents to feel "righteous" while wreaking devastation on a very young woman's psyche if we look for the ultimate cause of this sordid behavior.
Those parents are in for YEARS of counseling [if they dare go!] perhaps as soon as they hear this news. Did Chantelle have siblings? They will be in a world of hurt for sure! And if ever the day comes that they realize that the WT Society is not God's organization to the exclusion of all others, they will KNOW they helped kill their own daughter. For they have. They were willing accomplices to the murderers who kill by shunning.
Would I welcome the parents here at some point in the future? I believe I might -- if they had a repentant attitude LOL. Yes, if they came seeking solace for the wrongs they committed, as so many of us have done, then I would hug them with the sure and certain knowledge of how the WT cult victimizes ALL its members.
Right now, however, I want to spit in their faces.
out
Very sad news. It was a shame she didn't know how many people could have helped her.
The most galling thing? They will probably use her as an example of 'what happens when you turn your back on the truth' instead of admitting that it was the 'truth' that did this to her.
It was good of you to try to help her Celtic and for Adele too for 'being there' for her.
