by bigdaddysgurl27 80 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
Daddysgurl-
Your kind of thinking has always amazed me. Even as a JW I always found it hard to believe that everyone who didn't think exactly as I did would not be saved. That always "sickened and saddened" me personally. What about good people that were never exposed to Christianity, such as many African or Aboriginal tribes?
Some people spend their entire lives doing good works for people of any religion, but their God might be Allah or Buddha, do these not count?
Daddysgurl-
Well I just reread your post and I guess you said:
Those who do not accept Jesus as there Lord and Savior and let it be known publicly will not have a home in HeavenDoes this mean that even if you do except Jesus, but don't make it known publicly then you'll still go to hell?
Dear DaddysGurl;
I am sorry that I asked about Jw. The things that I have learned from Jw believers and ex believers have sickend and saddend me.
I understand how you can feel sickened and saddened by all of this. I was also sickened and saddened when I came here and read about all of this stuff. I used to be a JW, but I had an excuse; I was raised as one as a little baby and didn't know any better. Now I am no longer a JW. But still what I read here sickens me. To think I could have been such is abhorent to me. Especially when I read about the child molestors they allow to go to your door and the doors of your neighbors. The next time they call at your door, don't just send them away. Follow them down the street until they are out of your neighborhood. Watch them carefully to make sure none of the neighbor children talk to them. What some of them do to children is truly sad.
Tammy
Jesus said that if anyone is ashamed of Him then He will be ashamed of you before His Father. When I got saved I let it be known that I was not ashamed of Jesus. And from what I have heard from JWs through post and email if you don't beleive like them then you are pretty much no good. And they can get aggressive also. The way they shun so many people is very sad :( ... I do not believe like everyone else but I do not shun them and I will go to other churches and I will associate myself with people that believe different that me if they believe at all.
Sorry I haven't heard of any child molesters...But them coming to my door would really make it bad.. it is always an older person (woman) that comes by.
StinkyPantz put finger to key and typed:
Your kind of thinking has always amazed me. Even as a JW I always found it hard to believe that everyone who didn't think exactly as I did would not be saved. That always "sickened and saddened" me personally. What about good people that were never exposed to Christianity, such as many African or Aboriginal tribes?This was one of my problems with Jehovah. I think the generally accepted answer was that he would just "read the hearts" of those that hadn't heard the Twoof. So if he could do that, why not do it years and years ago? (Personally, I think 1975 would have been appropriate.) Why choose some arbitrary point of time. Just do it, you slow, over-patient God, you!
Welcome to the Board bigdaddysgurl!
I am a fellow Christian, and I thank the Lord Jesus Christ for opening my eyes and setting me free from the false religion CULT of the Watchtower Society.
The others who have answered you on this Thread are correct about the beliefs of the JW's.
I thought I would add some more of the JW's beliefs:
There are about 6 million JW's worldwide, and 1 million in the USA.
The JW's believe that Jesus Christ is a CREATED SPIRIT PERSON named Michael the Archangel.
The JW's believe that the Holy Spirit is NOT A PERSON, but an impersonal "active force" like electricity.
The JW's REJECT the Bible's Teaching that you cannot be saved by doing "good works."
The JW's believe that you must go to 5 Meetings a week, and go Door-To-Door preaching their "Good News" in order to be saved at Armageddon (and then only if you put in "enough" hours).
The JW's believe Armageddon is coming "very soon" (they've been saying this for 130 years, plus they have had NUMEROUS false prophecies, such as Armageddon coming in 1874, 1914, 1918, 1925, World War II, 1975, 1984, 1994, 2000), and that ALL non-JW's will be DESTROYED.
They teach that if a woman is raped, and she does not scream and/or fight off the attacker, then she has committed fornication and will be Disfellowshipped (Excommunicated) from the Congregation and will be Shunned by all friends and family (who are outside her household), and they will not even say "Hello" to her, and she is told that if she is Disfellowshipped when Armageddon comes, God will destroy her and her children (if she has any).
They also teach that receiving a Blood Transfusion is "against Jehovah God's Law", and God will destroy you at Armageddon if you take a Blood Transfusion. Also, if you allow your child to have a Blood Transfusion, Jehovah will destroy the child at Armageddon. But, now, the JW's allow certain Blood Fractions, but not others. In the past, the JW's were forbidden from accepting Organ Transplants and Vaccinations, but they are now allowed.
Also, in the past, the JW's were forbidden from performing Alternative Military / Civilian Service, but it is now allowed.
The JW's forbid celebrating ANY holidays, such as Christmas, or Birthdays. JW's forbid even celebrating Christ's Resurrection.
The JW's forbid ANY Political Activity (although I think they put out an Article saying that Voting in Elections is up to the individual JW's conscience now).
The JW's teach that only 144,000 "Anointed" People go to Heaven (God's selection of the "Anointed" began with the Apostles and ended in 1935). All other people, who are called "Other Sheep", will live on a Paradise Earth forever, as long as they obey all of the Watchtower Society's Ever-Changing List of Pharisaical Commands and Rules. JW's allow ONLY members of the "Anointed" to partake of the Wine and Bread at the Lord's Evening Meal Memorial, which is held once a year, in March or April. They teach that if you are NOT one of the "Anointed" and you partake, then Jehovah will be VERY ANGRY WITH YOU.
Charles Taze Russell, the Founder of the Jehovah's Witnesses, had MASONIC and ILLUMINATI connections (he used several Masonic Symbols and Phrases in his Publications, and he also requested to have an All-Seeing Eye Pyramid built on his Grave. I believe Charles Taze Russell was also accused of molesting a girl, but I am not 100% sure on that.
The Watchtower Society (Leadership of the JW's) made their own Bible "Translation" (called the New World Translation) so they could alter and corrupt the Bible and make it agree with their own beliefs and false doctrines (they have changed nearly all Verses that showed Jesus Christ's Deity, to make it appear that Christ was NOT God. For example, John 1:1 reads "...and the Word was a god." And they inserted the word "Jehovah" several times in the New Testament where the word "Lord" should be, and also, every time that a Scripture says that Jesus Christ was being wroshiped, they changed it to say "do obeisance to" instead of "worship")
The JW's do not believe that there is a Human soul or Human spirit that lives on after death.
They do not believe in Hell.
JW's believe that the 11-Man Governing Body of the Watchtower Society is a "Prophet" of God and that whatever this Governing Body says is the WORD OF GOD!
If you break ANY of the JW's Rules and Laws, you could be brought before a Judicial Committee of 3 or more Elders, who will then pray to God and make a "spirit-directed decision" on whether or not to find you guilty or innocent. If the Elders judge you as "unrepentant" they will Disfellowship (Excommunicate) you, which means all your friends and family (who are outside your household) will SHUN you, and anot even say "Hello" to you. If you go to the Meetings and suck-up to the Elders, you might get Re-Instated in a year or so.
The JW's forbid Smoking.
The JW's forbid Boxing, Wrestling, and Self-Defense Training.
The JW's forbid carrying a Gun for your Job (such as a Policeman or Security Guard).
The JW's forbid Participating in the National Anthem and Pledging Allegiance to the Flag or to any Government.
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 25 September 2002 1:2:58
Edited by - UnDisfellowshipped on 25 September 2002 1:3:19
Here is some more info about the JW's:
The JW's REQUIRE all their Members to Count their Time in Preaching on a Slip of Paper and are assigned Record Cards of Activity, determining this as a "gauge to their spirituality".
Also, here is the Watchtower Society's HIERARCHY:
1: The 11-Man Governing Body of "Anointed Ones"
2: Watchtower Society's Presidents, Lawyers, Spokesmen, Bethel Elders, and other really Big-Shots at Bethel in Brooklyn.
3: Zone Overseers (ZO)
4: District Overseers (DO)
5: Circuit Overseers (CO)
6: Bethelites (People who work at Bethel)
7: Presiding Overseer (PO) (Top Elder of each Congregation)
8: Body of Elders (Leaders of each Congregation)
9: Ministerial Servants ("Wanna-Be" Elders)
10: Local "Anointed" Brothers and Sisters
11: Auxiliary Pioneers
12: Pioneers
13: Publishers
Here are more JW beliefs:
Jesus Christ (Michael the Archangel; the Word) was the first of God's creations, and Jehovah God used Jesus to create all other things.
Jesus Christ died on a "Torture Stake" NOT a Cross (the Cross is PAGAN, they say).
Jesus Christ was raised from the dead as an Immortal Spirit Person (Michael the Archangel), and He was NOT raised up in His fleshly Body! However, they teach that Jesus did "materialize" in a FAKE BODY to TRICK the Apostles into believing that He was raised in His fleshly Body. Jehovah God did away with Jesus' fleshly Body by turning it into gases!
Jesus Christ's Second Coming and Presence is in spirit and is INVISIBLE, and it began in 1914.
The 144,000 "Anointed" ones are the ONLY ONES who are BORN AGAIN!
Also, the 144,000 "Anointed" are the ONLY ONES who have Jesus Christ as their MEDIATOR! All others have the "Anointed" as their Mediator!
ANYONE who leaves the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization will be SHUNNED, and are called "APOSTATES", "SATAN-WORSHIPERS", and "ANTI-CHRISTS".
The Governing Body receives all of their Teachings and Doctrine through the following Channel:
Jehovah God gives the info to Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ gives the info to the angels.
The angels give the info to the Governing Body.
But sometimes, Jesus gives the info to one of the "Anointed" who is already in Heaven, and then he gives the info to the Governing Body.
Also, sometimes, Jesus just uses the "holy spirit" active force to give the info directly to the Governing Body.
SHEESH!
All Jehovah's Witnesses (since 1985), are Baptized in the Name of the Father (Jehovah), and in the Name of the Son (Jesus Christ/Michael the Archangel), and in the Name of the Spirit-Directed Organization of the Watchtower Society!
Jesus was NOT the Messiah or Christ until He was Baptized and BORN AGAIN when He was 30!
The JW's teach that all of the dead "Anointed Ones" were taken to Heaven in 1918.
The JW's teach that the Jehovah's Witnesses were chosen by Christ as His Organization in 1919!
I'd still like an answer from "daddygurl" to my last post.
