Islam is a religion of Peace (page 3)

Viviane

How does killing them cost 3x what it does for life imprisonment?Those sums seem way off to me.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

I have stated my opinion on this issue and i stand by it , obviously you have a different take on the matter

Well, no, actual facts have a different take on the matter.

Kate..."Sadly many don't realise that not all Muslims are killers and take the Koran literally and tar all with one brush, when in fact most Muslims especially women and children are victims of this high control religion and don't know how to escape."

Kate, what makes you think that most Muslim women and children want to escape?

They want to stay and be rewarded by Allah because they believe they have the truth. They look up to their elders and share the same opinion of infidels as their men do.

They can't just hide behind their veils and their men and pretend that what their leaders do is nothing to do with them. Or maybe with enough apologists speaking up for them, they can continue to do just that.

LoveUniHateExams

You're correct, Kate, most muslim women have no say in the religion.

But how do you feel about the minority of Western muslim women who make the journey to Syria/Iraq? Not all muslim women are sweet, innocent and oppressed.

KateWild

Gladiator,

I don't know if they want to escape or not, I just said they don't know how to. That is quite a different thing. They are indoctrinated victims that are trapped. Just like most JWs.

I can only judge on the individuals I have met. None of them have ever killed anyone or planned to. There is no evidence to suggest all Muslims are the same. Generalising is a bad thing and we should never judge people by our generalisations, we should judge people on their merits once we get to know them.

Kate xx

THE GLADIATOR

"I can only judge on the individuals I have met. None of them have ever killed anyone or planned to. "

I don't doubt you for a moment Kate. Even so, people are judged by the company they keep and the beliefs they share. The reign of Muslim terror will only be stopped by members who disagree walking away whatever the cost. If they choose to stay, then they are helping to support their leaders.

Muslims stay, regardless of the atrocities that are carried out, because they love Allah and believe they have the truth. If millions of Muslims disapprove of the violence, then they should publicly say so.

Coded Logic

JWs being "good people" doesn't pardon all the horrible things done by the religion.

Muslims being "good people" doesn't pardon the crimes against humanity Islam commands its followers to commit.

Just because most Western Muslims are peaceful doesn't mean Islam is a religion of peace.

Witness My Fury

All the costing given in that article are for the litigious USA. We are not talking about the USA.

Even if a death penalty trial does cost a bit more, you arent then paying hundreds of thousands per year looking after them until they die in possibly 40 or 50 years time.

James Brown

I think Islam and the Republican party,

will cause a lot of havoc in the United States.

Viviane

All the costing given in that article are for the litigious USA. We are not talking about the USA.

Why not? I was talking about the death penalty, I never specified a country. If you want to talk about a different country that still uses it, like say China, Russia, Iraq, Iran or North Korea, please go ahead and gather the data and we can.

Even if a death penalty trial does cost a bit more, you arent then paying hundreds of thousands per year looking after them until they die in possibly 40 or 50 years time.

It's clear you didn't read the studies, those questions are addressed in, well, pretty much any one of them.

Shanagirl1

The death penalty won't work. Education about this totaltaian ideology is what's needed. Education about "islamization of a Country" This is long but important.

Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat by Dr. Peter Hammond (2008)

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete Totaltarian system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. (United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings) . Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel. – Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Shana

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