Babylon the great

by perfectpie 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • kes152
    kes152

    Greetings,

    You said:

    "Actually, whether they know it or not, Jehovah's Witnesses as an organization are directly tied into the prophetic drama! Because Babylon the Great will be proved to be, in the near future, clearly revealed to be, noneother than, the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, with its Governing Body, which presently leads 6 million clueless Jehovah's Witnesses, in some over 90,000 congregations worldwide."

    And thus you concluded..

    "TO MODERN-DAY "ISRAEL" (Jehovah's Witnesses):"

    Indeed you are VERY, VERY, very close, but not quite. The reason you gave for Christendom is the very REASON why the WTBTS CANNOT be "Babylon the Great." Much like Christendom, the Jehovah's witnesses including the WT organization never claimed to be in the new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ. Hence they cannot act "wickedly against" a covenant from which they were never apart of. And according to witness doctrine, Jehovah's Witnesses as a whole are not the "Israel of God." They believe only the 'anointed' are. Babylon is called a 'harlot' because instead of being a "promised virgin bride of Christ," she has 'committed fornication' with the 'kings of the earth,' and proved false to the new covenant of which she claims to be in.

    This leaves just one other 'group' of people. "Babylon the Great" is called, in the revelation that John recieved, the "Mother of the harlots and of all the disgusting things of the earth." Hence Babylon the Great is the GOVERNING BODY of Jehovah's witnesses and the HARLOTS to which they are "MOTHER" of is the ANOINTED REMNANT of Jehovah's wiitnesses still in the organization.

    The WTBTS, which is DIFFERENT from the 'society,' is the 'beast' of which the ""Mother" both has a kingdom over and sits on. This 'beast' is one who has "come out of the earth" and is thus 'earthly,' has 2 horns like a Lamb, etc. And is 'causes to be 'killed' (or disfellowshipped) anyone would would not in anyway 'worship the beast and its image.'

    The 'society' according to the JV book, is all the 'anointed' in the organization of whom they are ALSO termed the 'faithful and discreet slave.' The "Governing Body" are 'employed' by the 'society' to act as their "representatives" and thus claim to be the 'representation of the Lord on earth.'

    The "harlots" with its "mother" are these of which my Lord said will "come on the basis of my name saying 'I am anointed' and will MISLEAD MANY." Instead of the 'anointed' LEADING people to the Christ and offering them free gift of holy spirit, they have 'led' them to an organization and have DEMANDED both their membership and their loyalty to it. Hence many have recieved the 'mark' and have worshipped it saying, "who is like the beast (this organization) so as to do battle with it?" These "harlots" are the women mentioned in Rev. 14:4 of which the 144,000 do not defile themselves with. These 'women' are also mentioned in Proverbs 2:16-19; 5:3-6, 20-23; 7:5-27; etc. This "strange, foreign" woman is one who has 'forgotten the covenant of her God,' has 'communion sacrifices,' etc. Obviously she is a 'relgious' related 'woman' of whom the Christ himself warned us against her.

    Although the 'anointed' GB had resigned from the corp. in fullfillment of prophecy on Oct. 9th 2000, they still hold a 'kingdom' over the 'kings of the earth' who are not just in Bethel, but all over the organization.

    Let the one who has ears "hear" what the spirit says to the congregations.

    To 'anyone wishing anyone asking," Come, DRINK! the free gift of holy spirit from the inward parts of our Lord so you can have "life" in yourselves.

    Look forward to your response,
    Aaron

  • oanai
    oanai

    Oh boy, this aughtta be good.... Where is my popcorn...

  • Tina
    Tina

    ack apologies Farkel,I meant babylon Jam (sending you a check for violatin the copyright)lol,T (but as kids we all did call it B the grape lol) thought everybody did :>

  • eby
    eby

    The book, "The Second Coming Bible" by William E. Biederwolf, gives the following possibilities; each supported by different authorities:
    Jerusalem, Heathen Rome, Papal Rome, The apostate church of the future in general (Roman Catholic, Greek Catholic and unfaithful Protestantism). The author prefers the latter possibility.

    eby

  • expatbrit
    expatbrit

    Oanai:

    I'm with you on the popcorn!

    Now taking bets on how long this thread drags on....

    Expatbrit.

  • ianao
    ianao

    The thread will either go for VERY long in a heated debate, or nowhere at all.

    I would place bets, but I haven't "spoken" with kes152, so it's hard to say.

    (my popcorn is getting cold though...)

  • VeniceIT
    VeniceIT

    These folks have a different view

    http://preterist.org/

    Venice

  • kes152
    kes152

    LOLOLOLOL!!!

    Peace to you,
    Aaron

  • kes152
    kes152

    perhaps it has a 'ring of truth' to it since there has been no response.

    Peace to all,
    Aaron

  • logical
    logical

    kes152:

    Hi, I'm just wondering, what is your position re JW's?

    You said:

    Much like Christendom, the Jehovah's witnesses including the WT organization never claimed to be in the new covenant mediated by Jesus Christ.

    This is true. But, the WTS are deliberately hiding this from the congregations, in order to fulfil 2 Thessalonians 2:3-12, to become the "man of lawlessness", set themselves up in opposition to Jehovah (which has not been revealed yet).

    Jehovah's Witnesses enter in a covenant, whether they know it or not, upon their baptism. Ecclesiasted 5:4-6 shows that they are bound by what they promise in the name of Jehovah. Even with the "simplified" idolatrous questions, they are still swearing to Jehovah.

    ALL baptised current, active, inactive or ex Jehovah's Witnesses, are indeed, in a covenant relationship with Jehovah, with Jesus Christ as their mediator. There is NO WAY OUT, except for death. These JW's are Spiritual Israelites.

    The message MDS preaches, to God's People, to GET OUT OF BABYLON THE GREAT, THE WTS, is definitely aimed at the correct people, these "clueless" Jehovah's Witnesses.

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