I have resorted to calling you Dragon
Beck
Either one works, not like they are my real name ... What I think is funny, is when people think my name is ken.
My thought
Dragon
The caffeine addiction
by kenpodragon 29 Replies latest jw friends
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kenpodragon
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wednesday
once when i was 17 i was openly talking with a sis at the public talk. I was bored and we were just having girltalk but i guess we got too loud, and the speaker stopped his talk and corrected us from the platform. (it was a small cong and half of us were related)
Once years ago at a weekend assembly, i had a can of soda .During the talk i decided i wanted to drink it so i popped the top and it spewed all over the palce. the assembly speaker actually stopped and looked at me. (just lucky i guess)
i once got counseled for leaving pampers in the ladies bathroom(may have deserved that one)i was 17
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Cygnus
I remember when the WT said that caffeine addiction was as bad as drugs or alcohol.
So I chastised my wife for drinking so much Pepsi. And I felt outraged when an elder told the bookstudy group that he needed 3-4 cups of coffee every morning to get in shape for the day.
Then I started drinking half a case of beer a day.
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Satanus
Hi cyg
the WT said that caffeine addiction was as bad as drugs
I'ld recommend you start w a cyg, herbal, that is.
SS
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Amazing
I recall a very well circulated rumor many years ago that held coffee is a bad drug because its chemical components are very similar to cocane. (JWs are often ignorant of the fact that simple and minor chemical adjustments can make a world of difference in chemistry) I recall one of our Elders talking to heavy coffee drinkers, including me ... and he even wrote to the Society ... I forget whether we got a letter back, or something was published in the Awake! or The Watchtower, but the Society basically said to leave people alone regarding coffee ...
... our PO, also a very heavy coffee drinker, openly stated that if the Society outlawed coffee, that we had better say our good-byes now, because he will be DF'd before he will ever give up coffee.
The only reason I stopped drinking it last May, was my heart attack. Caffien tends to constrict the arteries. Otherwise, I would be drinking it like a mad-man.
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Satanus
I love(d) coffee. I drank as much as my body could stand for years. It got so it was messing up my blood sugar really bad. Several months ago, i cut back to about one cup per month. Now, i drink tea. It has the cafiene, but it doesn't dump it into the system in on blast. It's a more sustained delivery of the drug.
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gumby
Questions
From Readers 90 W 2/15 page29Should a Christian avoid coffee and tea because they contain the addictive drug caffeine?
The Bible does not mention coffee or tea. But what it does say can help a Christian to decide whether he will drink coffee or tea.
The drug caffeine can affect mind and body. Millions of cups of coffee and tea are consumed daily, leading Dr. Melvin Konner to say: "[Caffeine] may, in fact, be the most widely used psychoactive drug in the world." It can increase alertness, raise ones adrenaline level, and speed up circulation and metabolism. That it is a drug does not of itself establish whether a Christian should shun caffeine-containing beverages (coffee, tea, cola drinks, mat) or foods (such as chocolate).
Alcohol is also a drug that can affect mind and body, yet what do the Scriptures say about it? The Bible acknowledges that wine (or other alcoholic drinks) can make "the heart of mortal man rejoice" or alter the mood of a distressed soul. (Psalm 104:15; Proverbs 31:6, 7) Gods Word does not, though, indicate that true worshipers must avoid all beverages containing alcohol. What the Bible condemns is immoderate use of alcoholdrunkenness.Deuteronomy 21:18-21; Proverbs 20:1; Hosea 4:11; 1 Corinthians 5:11-13; 1 Peter 4:3.
What, however, of the claim that a person may become addicted to caffeine? Many who habitually drink coffee, tea, or mat develop some degree of dependence, though it is debated whether this is a true clinical addiction. At least they feel withdrawal symptoms, such as headaches or nausea, if deprived of their normal dose of caffeine. Here again, call to mind the Biblical view of alcoholic drinks. Though many persons have been addicted to alcohol, it is not forbidden to Christians if taken in moderation. Jesus drank wine; he even miraculously made wine at a wedding feast.Matthew 26:29; John 2:3-11.
Still, a Christian might feel that he would prefer not to risk becoming dependent on caffeine. If being deprived of his regular intake of caffeine makes him irritable ("coffee nerves"), he might consider abstaining from caffeine as a demonstration of "self-control." (Galatians 5:22, 23) Since the Bible does not mention abstinence from beverages containing caffeine, the decision about coffee or tea must be made individually. Moderation is appropriate if a Christian consumes either.Compare Titus 2:2.
Moderation is also central to the question of possible health risks. There are many claimed hazards of regularly taking in large doses of caffeine (whether from coffee, tea, cola drinks, or other drinks or foods). Yet, for each study linking a particular health risk to caffeine, another seems to point to the contrary.
The logic of moderation is underscored by what the Bible says about honey. It is a natural substance, and the act of eating it as a stimulating energy food is natural (in contrast to breathing smoke into the lungs). (1 Samuel 14:26, 27; Matthew 3:4) However, you can get sick from eating too much of it. The Bible warns: "Is it honey that you have found? Eat what is sufficient for you, that you may not take too much of it and have to vomit it up."Proverbs 25:16, 27.
Some people cannot consume any honey at all. Similarly, for health reasons some may need to avoid alcohol, caffeine, dairy products, or other foods and beverages. Others may avoid such things by personal choice or because of widespread local sensitivity, not wanting to offend anyone. This reminds us of the apostle Pauls comment: "If food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat flesh at all, that I may not make my brother stumble."1 Corinthians 8:13.
Consequently, let each individual act in accord with his own resolve without feeling that his decision needs to be imposed on others. Paul wrote: "Let the one eating not look down on the one not eating, and let the one not eating not judge the one eating, for God has welcomed that one. Who are you to judge the house servant of another?"Romans 14:3, 4.
Edited by - Gumby on 16 October 2002 11:25:14
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pettygrudger
that is too damn funny!!!! Boy they wouldn't like me at all
Rhonda (of the where's my second POT of coffee because I'm not a morning person either & the afternoons are dedicated to Diet Pepsi class)
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orangefatcat
my dad was an elder and he started his day with coffee and he always had his coffee breaks at 10:30-11:00am he loved coffee and yes he was probably addicted to it, but he didn't care. He probably got everyone in the hall to take coffee breaks with him. Because between the above mentioned time in the town of Bradford you can find almost all JWs in the coffee shops.
He had be an alcholic and a heavy smoker before becoming a JW so maybe he used coffee as a substitute for these additions. Who knows.
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Dia
I feel this might really be a bad place to inject this, but I'm passionate about it, so I might as well share it with you:
(You'll be happy to know there is no religious judgement of any kind)
Best wishes