USA WAR PROPAGANDA

by proplog2 51 Replies latest jw friends

  • troucul
    troucul

    back, yes that makes better sense. I'm all about learning other cultures like yourself. And as far as how some people have a problem with it and tend to take it to the next level, I'm with you there too. Sad to say, it's many americans who are guilty of that.

    And Lucy, No that is not the dumbest reason. I'm not sure you thought your reasoning through. First, being born into a nationality and born into a religion are two different things entirely. You can change your religious beliefs, you cannot change your nationality. You cannot control from where/whom you are born. Again, there is no need to be ashamed of one's nationality. Do you think the Afghani I met should have held his head in shame? What does that accomplish? Look at John Walker Lindh! Because he decided to try and become someone he wasn't, look at where it got him! 20 years! He now acknowledges what he did was wrong. He even said that if he knew now what he knew then, he wouldn't have done what he did.

    A side note, I can tell you're a pessimist. You look at the glass half empty, for you lump all Jehovah's Witnesses into the description of being hypocrites, child molestors and greedy bastards. If I'm not mistaken, I believe that borders on slander. While I myself no longer am one, I would seriously hesitate before I make that assumption. Whether you choose to believe to or not, there are still many fine, respectable people within that organization. You cannot say what you said. Please do not pass off your last comment as merely making an example, I know where you were headed.

  • LuckyLucy
    LuckyLucy

    I could give a rats ass about nationality!What is more important is human decency. There are sick people in ALL walks of life.
    I never said that all jw are corrupt..in fact most of them are too brainwashed to make thier own decisions...I'ts the big fat men at headquarters that are the corrupt ones. Pessimist..no....realist..yes.

  • Pork Chop
    Pork Chop

    Well I got as far as the first Ramsey Clark quote, that was enough. That guy's a lunatic.

  • troucul
    troucul

    You brought it up, Lucy. In my book, nationality refers to a person's country of origin. I was merely pointing to a flaw in your reasoning.

    ..people never cease to amaze me

    that is more true than you know.

  • Mary
    Mary

    America is by no means perfect, but it's the best form of government we have at the present time.........unless of course all you bleeding hearts would prefer to live under Communism, or maybe even Islam?

    Quit your frigging whining about all the "bad" things the USA has done; there isn't a country in the world that isn't guilty of attrocities.........the very country that you complain about ensure your Freedom of Speech........this you'd get that in Iran or Iraq?

    Our Canadian government is whining about the States "targeting" Canadian Citizens who are from the Middle East, who enter the USA, because it's "discrimination".........ya, well unfortunately, all the terrorists from 9-11 were from the Middle East so too frigging bad. What would Canada do if Islamic fundamentalists ran a couple of planes into the financial district of downtown Toronto? We don't have anything to defend ourselves, and we'd look to the States for help immediately.

    I'm not even an American, and I hope Bush kicks ass.

  • troucul
    troucul

    Quit your frigging whining about all the "bad" things the USA has done; there isn't a country in the world that isn't guilty of attrocities

    Touche, point well taken.

  • LuckyLucy
    LuckyLucy

    Bush sucks!! Wake up we are heading towards communism...have you ever heard of "one world nation"?? this means one religion!!! Freedom of speech...Then why does the government listen to our phone converstaions for key words?

    Edited by - LuckyLucy on 10 November 2002 19:0:46

    Edited by - LuckyLucy on 10 November 2002 19:3:39

  • troucul
    troucul

    Watch out folks, we got another winner here...

  • LuckyLucy
    LuckyLucy

    Why thank you ....troucul! Glad you think so!! Yes...I do my homework.

  • gsx1138
    gsx1138
    Is America better than the rest? No, I won't say better. We just have fought for the freedom to make life as good as we can. Does that excuse past mistakes? No. But, what other country tries to rectify their mistakes as America does?

    If America just sealed all it's borders and allowed no one else in and ousted all the foreign nationals, how much outcry would be raised around the world? You can bet plenty.

    This is the most intelligent thing I've read so far in this thread. I think most people with common sense are not blind to the fact that we have plenty of blood on our hands but it seems that many try to either ignore this or that is all they focus on. You can point out all of our shortcomings but that does not fix anything. The only thing it does is open arguments with nationalists. It's important to talk about these things but I don't think the added rhetoric does anything for the discussion.

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