Should jw women B obese?

by badboy 23 Replies latest jw friends

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  BeautifulGarbage

  Okay, I have an opinion about this because weight and eating have dominated much of my life experiences. I also was hospitalized for an eating disorder in my 20's. My opinions are strong and please know this post is in no way targeted at anyone in particular.

  gluttony

  n 1: habitual eating to excess 2: eating to excess (personified as one of the deadly sins)

  Most of them are (men also) It plainly states in the bible that gluttony is a "deadly sin". I have never heard of anyone being df'd for this. ( Maybe because it would wipe out about 75% of all congergations, therefore drastically reducing magazine sales.) I have however, heard of many many people being df'd for smoking..never saw that in the bible as being a sin.

  
  Gluttony and FAT are not necessarily mutually exclusive. I have known plenty of people that can eat almost unfathomable amounts of food and still appear to be "normal". That is because they barf it all up. "Scarfers and barfers" is what we used to call them in treatment.

  That marathon runner I was in treatment with had broken her esophagus twice because of the number of times she had upchucked her food. Sometimes, even while she ran in races she would throw up into the cups of water that were provided. Dump the water and barf into the cup. This same woman, a candy salesperson (talk about heaven and hell) would jump into dumpsters behind supermarkets to gorge on the old food that was thrown away.

  But to look at her from the outside, one would never know. She was gorgeous and in shape. Her youth camouflaging her awful secret. I'll bet there would be no talk of DFing a woman like her.

  Then there was another beautiful young woman, who when she showed me her teeth; the back of them were damaged by the vomiting she had been doing for years. The enamel almost completely worn away. She was 17.

  You want to talk about eating whole pies? My darlings, whole pies won't even get a blip on the screen in the world of eating disorders. A whole pie is just an appetizer. Which of course, is quickly gotten rid of as to make room for more.

  And all the while, they avoid the ridicule that FAT people have to be the target of. They get to avoid the nasty labels of "Pig" "fatty" "lardass", or "GLUTTONS".

  So! Next time you find yourself lusting after that hot slim chickie across the room, or at an assembly, make sure to CHECK HER TEETH, and watch how many trips she makes the bathroom, before you ask her for her phone number. That dinner you pay for may just wind up in the toilet.

  Considering that JWs are loaded with every other disorder known to man, I'm sure eating disorders also grip them as tightly, if not more, than everyone else.

  Andee
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  Mary

  Speaking from experience, over-eating is an addiction in 99% of the cases. Whereas others may turn to booze, cigarettes or drugs to 'make themselves feel better', alot of people turn to comfort food and this rarely includes fruit and vegetables. It's generally either carbs or sweets that we turn to. It's because if you're depressed, the food affects the seratonin in your brain and it gives you an instant boost, just like drugs or alcohol.

  I too find it somewhat hypocritical that you can be DF'd for smoking, but nothing happens to you for "polluting" your body with an excess of pop, chips, cakes and donuts..........the only difference is that other people aren't breathing in the crumbs from your cake when you're eating it..........

  It's a very difficult habit to break, overeating, simply because it's cheap, it's easy and it's legal..........
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  LuckyLucy

  Let me say this...I have been very fat before...I know all the excuses.

  It is impossible to fast for a year. You would die way before that.Everything in moderation..eating and dieting.Find a middle ground.

  When I gain weight it's because I am not happy with myself....so I don't understand how fat people can say they are happy.

  Get real like Dr. Phil would say.

  Edited by - LuckyLucy on 6 December 2002 17:5:44
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  bay64me

  If I were to be politically correct, I would question the title of your post!

  Why women and not men?

  Many of the women in my former congregation were and infact are, obese

  But I know three elders that had health problems due to the fact that they were fat bastards. Also three ministerial servants that were also so fat that that they could not tie their own shoe laces.(One inparticular needed regular assistance in getting his own shoe ON)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  undercover

  I agree that eating can become an addiction. The experience I gave earlier was not meant to belittle anyone with a real addiction. But the person I knew was just a slob. He didn't care about his appearance or his weight or his health.

  I don't mean to lump all heavy people or over-eaters into that same category. I guess when you give an example, you kinda have to know the person and situation. But I know that his gluttony was not an addiction.

  At the same time, smoking can be an addiction. Does the WTS have a program to help these addicts? Outside of exhorting these ones to pray, No. But yet they disfellowship ones who cannot quit. But someone who overeats, whether addicted or not, is ignored. According to the scriptures that they say that they adhere to, gluttony is wrong. Addiction or not. But they do not punish these ones while making sure smokers, addicted or not, are removed. There is where the hypocrisy is.

  I beleive one can smoke occasionally without becoming addicted. It's like alchohol. Some can, some can't. If you feel can you become addicted to it, then you should abstain completely. If you can have a smoke or drink without overindulging or feel a constant craving, then it should not be a problem. Eating or overeating is a different situation. You have to eat to live, so someone addicted to eating needs help. Help that cannot be given by elders praying over you.

  Why not counsel, disclipline and rehabilitate the addicted ones, no matter what the addiction, instead of picking on certain addictions to condemn but ignore others without ever really helping anyone?
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  Cicatrix

  I was told by an elder's wife that I should gain weight to "keep the men away." I guess it was a pretty popular reasoning in our area. She told me that she had intentionally gained weight after she married so as not to be a target for sexual advances. At the time, I was pretty thin, but "stacked", so to speak.Many people asked me if I was a model (I was actually so stressed out I was sick from it). I was constantly being warned not to act seductively, dress apropriately,blah,blah,blah, even though I was the most conservativly dressed woman in my age range (I wouldn't even wear a skirt above my ankles, for God's sake).It was just assumed that because of my looks, I was at risk for being promiscuous. The kicker was when I'd talk to a man at the doors. It didn't matter that my CHILDREN went with me, I was immediately counseled to "be careful" not to get out of sight of the car because "You're an attractive woman, and you never know what those men might be thinking." I actually had a CO question me about men's reactions to me. The funny thing was, I was harrassed more by the people making these dumb accusations than I ever was by "worldly" men!

  So maybe that explains why the men aren't counseling their women to lose weight. Maybe, like me, they were pressured into it. The ironic thing is, I've gained about 15 pounds since I quit and reduced my stress level by volumes. I have more problems with being approached now that I'm "fluffy" than I did then:)
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  OrbitingTheSun

  ESSE QUAM VIDERI. To be, rather than to seem. So many focus on appearance, when the imperative is health. I would much rather be healthy than seem healthy.
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  SixofNine

  Well thought Orbiting, although I think that if one is healthy, it will show to all but stupidest amongst us.

  Edited by - SixofNine on 6 December 2002 18:22:22
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  Bendrr

  I was told by an elder's wife that I should gain weight to "keep the men away."

  Cicatrix, all I can do is shake my head and say that "it don't make no damn sense".

  Mike.
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  orangefatcat

  Lucky Lucy.

  I have to tell you that I did fast for an entire year and I was under the care and supervision of specialists an endocrinologist in the city of Montreal. And if you notice what I said after my statment in my post I said I nearly died. Yes this was a very dangerous thing to do. The other man who started at the same time as me died. My doctor didn't want to tell me at first that he died but when I persisted in knowing how he was she confessed to me that the strain on his body was so great that he had died.

  On My diet I subsisted on 1 quart of skim milk a day, lots of water and multiple vitimans and potassium. and that is what I lived on for a year. If you find this difficult to believe you can ask Bigfloppydog who is a poster here. She has known me for over 18 years. I must admitt is was truly difficult to start eating again as I was afraid to gain weight. My brain was so depleted of gluclose and my body of protein that when I started eating I only wanted to eat cottage cheese and chocalate bars. I was totally addicted to them.

  Lucky Lucy if you wish to speak with the specialist in Montreal I will gladly give you her name and address and I am sure she will gladly tell you about me. I am wrote about in Medical Journals.

  I am not angry with you or anything like that but I think you should realize that I don't make things up. What I put on these posts they are true and if I make an error I will always apologize if its wrong. So believe me I am telling you the truth..

  Orangefatcat...Terry