Food service was a way to 1) get out of sitting and trying desperatly to stay awake during the brain numbing talks, and 2) impress the chicks (or so I thought - it never worked! ) But it sure was a good cure for reason #1
The Watchtower Defeat No One Notices
by metatron 36 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Satanus
I know the wt songs are dismal, but the band they used to use at the assemblies did add some human warmth to them. I have cool memories of the band practices. That's another part of wt culture gone, for present dubs.
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metatron
I had forgotten all about bands at assemblies.
Then they try to ban 'large gatherings' - too bad that doesn't include conventions!
Every religion is a business, ultimately, - and yes, lawyers have to get involved
sometimes.but lawyers shouldn't be the primary source of reform or dynamism in a religion.
and committees aren't shining beacons of inspiration.
They drain away their own lifeblood and then wonder why they're anemic.
metatron
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jack2
Very thought-provoking thread. I can relate to and certainly agree with the replies as well.
When I first came to this site, at times I would try to defend some jw teachings and practices. Over time, that became very hard to do because the actual thought process in putting up a defense made me realize that offering such defense is very difficult if not impossible.
Of course, it may just be that hangin' with all you 'postos is just breaking me down.
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one
Metratron says "Dummies, Loonies, and Deliberate cynics"... true.
Sad when I to classify family member as such.
Really, many jw just dont have what it takes to move on.
The excuse about impact on family and friends relations is becoming an worn out excuse.
If to the same person you offer 100 million dollar to leave the jw, would they think twice?
Being true to yourself is worth.. how much did you say?
No one would eat garbage and waste time walking around in circle just because his/her relatives are crazy and lthey like to do so and if stop doing that...
Give me a break.!
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one
You should give a lot of people on the board a break! Family is one very important reason to slowly drift away or become a nominal JW. Does it really hurt to drag yourself to two or three meetings a month to keep peace with loved ones in the truth? No.
Most of us are willing to do whatever it takes for our loved ones.
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one
1.- "is BECOMING worn out", There tare ime limits, you know. How slow is "slowly".
2.- What about if someone offer you 100 million to speed up the "slowly" process? What about SIX MONTH... (if that much time reminds you about anything).
3.- "truth"!? , what truth?
5,- Sorry, i just notice you are new around here .
Edited by - one on 10 December 2002 16:23:54
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1.- How slow is "slowly".
It may take a lifetime. What are a few hours a month or years for loved ones?
2.- What about if someone offer you 100 million to speed up the "slowly" process? What about SIX MONTH... (if that much time reminds you about anything).
Since no one is going to offer me the money, it does not matter
3.- "truth"!? , what truth?
That is slang from the Borg. It is hard to change a lifetime of speech
5,- Sorry, i just notice you are new around here.
Not really that new, I just do not post often. Most of the time others express my thoughts, so I do not take up the extra space.
If friends and family are important to you then you will find away to come to terms with them and what it takes to keep the relationship. Two thirds of the world belongs to some religion. And I doubt that any of them are really that strong with their faith. So I am just another nominal Christians that happens to be a JW.
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reubenfine
Analysis,
I think you are actually hurting your relatives more than you are helping them if you go to meetings and don't believe. For one thing, you are helping them to justify being in a cult because you occasionally go. Then you are being a hypocrite because you're acting like you believe it but you don't. You aren't being the real you, which is robbing them and yourself at the same time. You are also reinforcing the idea that they can pressure you to believe like they do as if that's actually a good thing.
How do you think you're helping them, because they won't get upset at you leaving the cult? They're upset anyway because you're weak. I don't get it. I think there is another underlying issue that you aren't facing. I don't mean to sound like I'm bashing you, it just doesn't make sense when you reason it out. They certainly don't change what they're doing because they're afraid you'll get upset. Would you say that they don't love you, then? If not, then why the double standard?
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No Apologies
Analysis,
Does it really hurt to drag yourself to two or three meetings a month to keep peace with loved ones in the truth? No.
Yes it does. I could not do it anymore. As Reuben pointed out, you are living a lie, and you are supporting a corrupt organization just by your passive attendance. You are not helping your family, you are helping to keep them in the dark. Just my 2c.