The Elders, part two (page 2)

Big Tex

I'm glad it worked out well for you. I still think those elders are a bunch of bullies, but at least now they'll leave you alone.

Interesting that they relate that there is now a program in place to visit the inactive, no matter how long ago. To do what? To lovingly care for the "lost sheep"? Not likely! To "shoot" them! Truly a "loving" organisation!

Glad you're "happy" to have kept your principles. How sad that those who are now exDubs have greater human dignity than those who lead the Dubs!

The goodbyes may be there, but there is a dark side. They (your visitors) will play their part.

Enjoy your holidays. Mrs Ozzie and I know what that means!!

Cheers, Ozzie

Edited by - ozziepost on 22 December 2002 16:0:51

Princess

Joe made the comment early on that he remembered Steve giving talks as a little boy. He said he was an excellent speaker even as a child and he was impressed with his mind. Then Chuck said he clearly remembered the last public talk Steve gave. He was also impressed with his intelligence and talent. I hope they think on that sometime. Both my husband and my father are extremely intelligent and highly regarded men. If witnesses would just THINK about that, these intelligent men have left and their families followed. Maybe they know something I don't.

I can dream, can't I?

Mom and dad, I don't see any reason for you to expect a surprise visit. Joe called us four times before we finally answered. Then he called again to let us know they were coming over today, and to see if it was alright.

We didn't see any point in throwing more stuff in their faces. At the end of the day they can ask forgiveness, feel forgiven and even justified in what they have done over the years. At the end of the day they also think god will kill us but give them everlasting life. What's the point in making them uncomfortable? We asked them to explain their lack of concern, they couldn't and were guilty over it. What does it matter if they are uncomfortable when we are the ones who are going to die for our actions, not them?

They mentioned they had just had eggnog lattes on their way over. Is that ok?

VeniceIT

What no xmas carols??????

Glad it went well. Hope you have some xmassy stuff you can wear to the hall that night or maybe the good ol 'I survived Armm in 1975 and all I got was this lousy t shirt'.

Aloooooohhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ven

Mulan

Rachel, your Dad said the same thing, and feels this is one call they won't look forward to.

As to making them uncomfortable, you know me. I will call a spade a spade, and indict them on their own terms. It doesn't bother me a bit. I want them to know that I know how things REALLY are. Especially if Joe is one of those who calls on us. I won't be able to resist. When I told your Dad, he smiled, and said "go get 'em, Irish." (for those who don't know............I am half Irish, and he says that is where I get my fiery personality. If he has a difficult phone call or person to talk to, he says he will sick the Irish woman on them)

We were discussing this new arrangement to call on inactive ones, and we wonder how they will handle the fallout from all the disfellowshippings and disassociations that will follow. It seems it will be kind of demoralizing for the congregations. But, maybe it will be a relief to them too. I know in our area, the witnesses have been asking for years why nothing has been done to us.

I do feel badly for my girlfriend. It will be very hard on her. We talk on the phone literally everyday, sometimes several times a day. That will continue..........but we won't be able to go out to lunch or shopping anymore. Unless................maybe it will make them think a little more too. Their sons are bound to be hit by the new program too.

Edited by - mulan on 22 December 2002 16:13:45

Joyzabel

Rachel,

I'm glad things went as you and your husband wanted it to go. What a relief off your shoulders! No more looking over your shoulders. :-)

Now go and enjoy your xmas vacation!

j2bf

Trauma_Hound

Ok, so the question now, Rachel, do you want a bunch of us apostates to show up, at the meeting, I can bring a video camera.

Princess

Steve told them he wasn't going to make a scene, he just wanted to hear the words.

A little party or something that weekend might be in order though. I'll keep you posted Charlie.

Rachel

LovesDubs

Princess, what your hubby did was indeed a lovely thing to do...but I tell you what, in doing so he reminded them that they BLEW IT and did NOT do their jobs as shepherds to the flocks, and only showed up to be judge jury and executioners when they SHOULD have been calling on you and encouraging you! HEAPING FIREY COALS !!

Now all those lazy elders who dont want to BOTHER to make shepherding calls on inactive ones when they BECOME inactive have the lovely job of going to talk to them when its TOO DAMN LATE. I hope in doing so the Society loses a BOAT LOAD of people from them finding out from inactive ones WHY THEY BECOME INACTIVE~!!

Salud

Rachel,

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. You and Steve handeled it great.

After reading your post, I can only imagine what was going through their minds as they walked down the driveway to their car. We are now waiting for our families to get the same 'shepherding call', and are looking forward to it all being over for everyone.

Have a wonderful holiday with your family in Hawaii....tell everyone hello from us, and Merry Christmas to you all.

Frank & Karen

The Elders, part two

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