Cannibalism,torture...in Africa...does it matter? (page 2)

Satanus

Valis

Yes, one approach would be, all the way or nothing. I think that basically, apartheid in south africa was an 'all' approach. It kept order and prosperity. Yet, the world and the blacks turned against it. Since the end of apartheid, crime rates have risen to be the highest in the world. Some black people have said that it was better before, under apartheid. In zambabwe, where food production was being done by white farmers, the farms are being confiscated by the govt. The economy is tail spinning and famine is starting as result.

I think these stories show that an foriegners coming in to set up and run everything will only be tolerated for a short time. They will come to be hated by the natives. They would rather starve by themselves than have outsiders 'lording it over them'. My opinion.

SS

Satanus

Here is the online story, 'the capture of a slaver'. It's by an american sailor serving on a navy ship intercepting slave ships off the coast of africa. An interesting part is where they repatriate the individuals who they liberated.

http://eserver.org/race/capture-of-a-slaver.txt

SS

Edited by - saintsatan on 15 January 2003 18:9:24

Simon

The british empire exploited much (i'm not singling out britain, honest). For examples, china, india, and the US. The american colonies got together and repelled the british. India succeeded in gaining independence.

Actually, the British empire was unique among empires in that it brought a lot of good and created the whole concept of open, global trade. Certainly, if you compare India before the British rule, it had a few wealthy people but none of the wealth was reinvested. With some orginisation it became a vibrant, economy and thrived. It is only in recent years that it has fallen behind growth wise (particularly to China)

Yes, the USA rejected the British too ... but don't get on your high horse - it was after all rich land-owners who wanted to have everything themselves and less about 'tyranny' (which they were happy to continue themselves). Even after that, without the protection of the British navy's the colony would not have thrived and prospered.

The Britsh empire is also unique because its size has still not been surpassed by the new empire of the USA and it was largely dismantled on good terms by negotiation, leaving fledgling democracies behind it. Of course there are exceptions and it did a lot of harm too but it was often nurturing and less 'raping and pillaging' as empires were so often in the past.

And don't forget the language we have given the world!

Satanus

Simon

Yes, there were good results under the british empire, as you say especially in india. The roman empre did some good too. It's occupation of britain is interesting.

When rome entered britain, it was an island inhabited by tribes: picts, scots etc etc. These tribes used to make alliances and fued, but basically it was a wild land. Anyways, after rome got in, it built roads through out, for it's own purposes. Roman administration and these roads enabled the british tribes to unify enough, so that they were able to defeat and drive out the romans.

SS