borgfree,
the US was interested in the oil resources of sOmalia!
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borgfree,
the US was interested in the oil resources of sOmalia!
Realist,
the US was interested in the oil resources of sOmalia!
I don't know about that, I didn't know there was oil in Somalia. We supposedly went there to help starving people, using our military for a sort of meals-on- wheels program. Somalia was, and is, I think, a very poor country, other than the war lords. If we were after oil, don't you think we would have given it a little more effort?
But, my point was, the way our service men were treated. How can we ever forget the pictures of our men being dragged behind a truck through the streets. I personally think we should have attacked, in force, and terminated the whole group responsible for that atrocity.
You may be right about the oil, but it just does not add up to me. I think we would have used a little better strategy than what was shown, if we were going after something we wanted that bad. Some people are saying we are only going after Iraq because of oil, why would we use the tremendous power about to be used in Iraq, but, go into Somalia with such a small effort?
Actually, some people think the USA is incapable of doing anything at all, unless there is some kind of a payoff for the US, or, more accurately, a payoff for Republicans. Democrats can bomb empty buildings, aspirin factories, or anything else, and their motives are thought to be pure, by those same people, who are condemning the Republican President.
Borgfree
Where ever there is oil, you will find US interest. Take Iraq. Yea, a decade ago they invaded Kuwait and they were kicked back out by the UN/US forces. But they didn't unseat Saddam. They let Saddam stay in power. What about now? Why all the sabre rattling? Has Iraq attacked anyone? Have the inspectors found weapons of mass destruction? If the US has evidence that they have weapons, lets see it. If that area wasn't so oil rich, nobody would pay Iraq any mind. Unless it's to lay down a smoke screen cause they can't find bin Laden.
Another area of interest to the US: Anyone who might have nuclear capabilities. Like North Korea. Is it to keep the world safe from crackpot leaders of these countries or is it to ensure that US and their allies always have the upper hand?
OK, that's the most I've said politically in years. One thing I've learned from being duped by the WTS is that now you have to question almost everything, including your political leaders, which is what democracy is all about.
borgfree,
geologists expect large oil resources in somalia.... but the oil is not exploited at the moment.
loosing the soldiers in such a terrible way left clinton with no choice but to withdraw the troops. the public opinion was too critical about that mission.
iraq has the second largest oil resources in the world. getting rid of hussein and installing a US friendly regime allows the US to anull the OPEC and to produce as much oil as they want. furthermore it will leave Israel as the only superpower in the region and to leave US troops there for all times.
if you look at US history you will notice that the US intervened almost exclusively (with the exception of the balkan conflict) only when USinterests where at stake. and you will notice that it doesn'T matter who is in office...republican or democrate...they always do just as the lobbies tell them to do.
particularly the US system of party support makes the voting process to nothing but a farce.
Realist
Realist,
Clinton pulled out of Somalia because he was a pussy. Only a dumbass would send in a bunch of troops without some sort of armored support. The whole mission was a joke. A TOTAL WASTE. The warlords are still there and the place is still a shit hole. If Reagan has sent the rangers in, you better believe he would have given them some backup. They could have taken over the whole city with some proper armor and air support. Where were the Apaches? Where were the Bradleys??? How about Navy support?? Planes??? NOTHING! CLinton left them high and dry- but what do you expect from a draft dodger.
If this had happened during Bush's term there would be no Warlords. If this had happened in Reagans term there would be no Somalia.
Thank you Mr. Clinton for leaving our Rangers high and dry. Thank you for getting 18 Rangers killed for NOTHING. What a WASTE of people. Clinton made us LOOK BAD. Made us look like a bunch of PANSIES because he didnt have the Balls to make a military decision.
Crazy,
wasn't that the mistake of the commanding officers? how can clinton be hold responsible for such a tactical error?
by the way...didn't the Us troops lose about 20 people and shot about 1000 somalis?