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Crazy151drinker

Jah,

Can I email you some links to mental health clinics?????

TR

By all means, Swordof'hovah, share your opinions with us.

TR

Shakita

I am still "in", so the question is, should I read it?

Yes.

Read it with an open mind.

SwordofJah:

I really doubt that you read both of the books. What is a "good" JW doing reading apostate literature?

Mrs. Shakita

I had never heard of Ray Franz until some time after I left for my own reasons, so what he had to say didn't shock me quite as much as it might have if I were still "in". For some reason, reading about all the politics and stuff that went on within the organization didn't affect me that much. It was the little things that got to me... like a brief footnote at the bottom of one page, in which he mentioned that at one point the WTS had a large surplus of one particular publication, so to shift them they just re-scheduled it to be studied again at the Book Study. It was only after reading that that I realized I had been used. Strange but true.

But like SOJ says, it won't necessarily turn you against the WTS if you're determined to stay in. It just provides a bit of an insight into how the organization is run, from someone who has actually had a hand in running it.

imanaliento

My husband had had the book locked in his brief case for months and one day he just decided to leave it out because in his rebellious nature why would some man tell you not to read something when knowledge is wisdom.

I picked it up and at first with JW mentality thought "no I can't read that it's apostate" further looking at it I was intriqued that it was from some one who had been on every level in the society.

Reading the first few paragraphs:

We have the option, of course, of surrounding our conscience with a sort of cocoon of complacency, passively "going along" shielding our inner feelings from whatever might disturb them. AT THIS POINT, YEAH THATS WHAT I'VE BEEN FEELING. when issues arise, rather than take a stand we can in effect say "I'll just sit this one out; others may be affected-even hurt-but I am not." Some spend their whole life in a morally 'sitting posture'. But, when all is said and done and when life finally draws near its close, it would seem that the one who can say, "AT LEAST I STOOD FOR SOMETHING,'MUST FEEL GREATER SATISFACTION THAN THE ONE WHO RARELY STOOD FOR ANYTHING.

Sometimes we may wonder if people of deep conviction have become a vanishing race.

when I mentioned the Malawai-Mexico story to a sister I got an almost cold hearted response when she said " every country is different". even after I mentioned thousands died because of the GB direction ( mans direction ).

after that We took our stand not to be involved with such a corrupt organization keeping the scripture in mind "get out of her my people if you do not want to share in her sins"

it takes time but it wasn't a lot of time to fiqure out to get out and take a STAND for something I believed in. Hope all works out for you, remember knowledge = freedom.

rocketman

My slow fade was already underway when I read the book last year. It mostly confirmed what I had already observed and also what I had read at this site's many posts on various jw topics.

I served on a body of elders, and to a great degree, a body of men is a body of men, whether it's the "governing body" or just a body of elders. When I sat on the body of elders, it seemed to me that God's direction was something we did not have, for various reasons. The C of C book served to confirm my suspicions that the same could be said for the governing body as well.

Mulan

My slow fade was already underway when I read the book

This was the same for me. My husband read it first, a couple of years before I did, when he was still serving as an elder (25 years), as we were trying to fade.

Someone reported that we had given both Franz books to a relative to read. We got called in for that, and my husband asked them if they thought anyone at HQ had read it. They said it was very likely. Then he asked if there was some special dispensation for them. Answer was "no". That pretty much ended it.

The book shocked me to the point of telling my husband that my slow fade was over. I am never going back. Neither of us ever did.

JeffT

I've told this story before, but its worth telling again.

One Sunday morning in the spring of 1988 I was sitting in the kitchen trying to kick start myself with a cup of coffee, and trying to think up a good reason to skip meeting. In walks my wife with C of C in her hand. I'm thinking "oh man I'm screwed now." Then she smiles and says "this is MY copy." She'd found mine where I had stashed and realized that we were both secretly finding out the truth about "the truth." The dam broke after that, we went to one or two meetings, and the district convention that summer, then we were out.

obiwan

Just like e-mail said yes and yes.

Nosferatu

Haven't read it yet. I'm hoping to eventually locate a copy for myself. Last time I checked into ordering a copy, it was temporarily out of print. However, I'll have to try again, perhaps tonight.

I didn't even hear about the book until a few months ago when I stumbled onto this site. From what I've read, it sounds like a hell of a good read.

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