by Yerusalyim 35 Replies latest jw friends
Yeru,
Why handle it differently? Why not take them out now while they only have a coupla small ones? How bout not letting ourselves be blackmailed. How bout Bush actually walking the walk if he's gonna talk the talk. I fear that if we negotiate we N. Korea it will send a message that you only need to be afraid of the U.S if you don't have nuclear weapons. Even if it's just a small one, so everyone hurry up and build nukes for yourself.
I would be interested to hear your account of Vietnam, and how American involvement brought peace?
One comment about Vietnam. Was the quality of life of the average citizen in South Vietnam better while the US was there or after the US pulled out and the communist north took over?
What had happened to the 'quaity of life' ie the social and economic infrastructure that made it so easy for the north to take over (with the aid of the south)?
I imagine for the 'average citizen' it was about the same. They farmed when the South was in charge, they farmed when the North was in charge. Not to defend Communism, but communist movements usually happened when a people's government was corrupt,the quality of life sucked and they were willing to listen to someone who promised better things.
Edited by - irongland on 16 January 2003 18:14:27
"War is Peace" .....?????
The truth is War is profitable.
Roski,
My take on the Vietnam war, it was fought the wrong way for the wrong reasons. Had the generals fought the war rather than the politicians Vietnam would now be every bit as productive as South Korea is.
I thought it was actually kind of comical, in an unfunny way (whatever that means) that Communist N Korea called for a 'Holy' War.
I imagine for the 'average citizen' it was about the same. They farmed when the South was in charge, they farmed when the North was in charge. Not to defend Communism, but communist movements usually happened when a people's government was corrupt,the quality of life sucked and they were willing to listen to someone who promised better things.
Iron, not exactly true. I wish I had the figure at my finger tips but I recall reading a few years back an article about the economics of Vietam during and after the US involvment there. The differnce of the GNP of the average citizen after the war and down to this day was a small fraction of what it was before the comminist north took over.
Davey is right. Had the Vietnam war been faught the right way and the south had won, Vietnam today would be like south Korea.
Yeru said:
Define "because of the oil" If you mean because the flow of oil from the middle east is vital to our economy, then you are in part correct, and I have no problem with this. If you mean because "big oil" in the US will profit, PROVE IT!
LOL, can you count? Hmm Dick Cheney used to be the president of Halburton company, naw they don't want oil.
Yes, the first action the US will take in this war is to capture the oil fields, for good reason, Saddam has vowed to blow them like he did the ones in Kuwait.
Yep that's the only reason, Dick Cheney didn't used to run an oil company, the Bushes don't have anything invested in oil.
Maybe part of the reason Iraq is the priority is because we already have our troops and equipment there. Perhaps it's because of Saddam's funding of Terrorists, perhaps it's because if we divert our attention to Korea then when we get back to Iraq they'll have developed a nuke, and the whole issue become a lot stickier.
In your own words, PROVE IT!
some of the comments are truly amazing....
you guys are talking about war as if it would be a CNN published computer game! oh how terrible it was to loose 3000 americans in NY and washington...how unhumane! SO LETS GO AND CARPET BOMB NK AND IRAQ....because these people are against our interests and hence have no right to live anyway?!
so why negotiate huh??? just bomb these bastards!!!!!????
UNBELIEVABLE!!!
