Sometimes, in the heat of emotion, people say things that,yes, border on sweeping generalizations. I too, do not believe every JW engages in pedophilia. Yet as the evidence against that organization continues to mount, the question begs asking, "Do I give blind allegiance to an organization that perpetuates such a woeful policy on acknowledging and dealing with child molestation?" For some to say," I'm not aware of such problems", or," that's just propaganda spread by disgruntled apostates" doesn't cut it anymore, and only serves notice of a persons unwillingness to honestly defend "truth". Though I haven't lived many years, I have seen that there are consequences for anyone who rationalizes away the truth. And that holds true no matter how noble that rationalization can seem. I will not judge those sticking with that organization, but for my own spiritual health, I will put distance between me and such a font of denial, and will share my experience when needed.
I don't know about you all... but this report is so far the best one... I really feel for all the victims... and the fact that there was a courageous guy willing to tell the world what he had gone through really touched me.
I watched it on the site. Us poor dial-up users have a hard time.. heheh. Incredible. When Mike Moss started crying (as Ashitaka brought up), I was just balling my eyes out. I couldn't believe when the Berry girl was describing what her Father did to her. It brought back a lot of memories of my own... I was horrified and at the same time glad that they were courageous enough to expose their personal tragedies and memories to the world in order for others to be helped. They were awesome. Needless to say, I didn't get to sleep the rest of the night. But I think this show, if some JW's are having doubts, and watched it, it just may be what it takes to spark them to action to maybe turn in someone they know, or help one of their own family members. I hope so. At least it made a wider audience aware.
OF COURSE not all JWs are pedophiles or even pedophile protectors. I have family in the org too. What I posted was out of raw emotion and I had to vent, k? Watching the show affected me very deeply, more than I anticipated. So Im not made of stone. Do I always have to be rational in my thoughts and feelings? Am I allowed to vent a little here and there when I really need to? I think I should.
reporter, i finally got the file off kaza, but it took sevreal searches, and had to put them under "all" and tried both fist fifth estate, and finally pulled up the files. I too got "ding dong the with is dead", only with your 2 files. I have ATT cable with AOL piggy back on, so i thought i should be able to use the high bandwith, But i could not, only the low bandwidth would load. but i have it now. Only i can't send it to anyone, b/c i tried and while it uuploaded just fine, i got the old familar Mailer D , saying the file was too large for AOL gateway. What can i do so i can send this file out? I managed to contact several realtives)nonjw) and send them a link to this site.
The program was heart wrentching for any caring person. U can only go on so long saying it is lies.
Btw, Bills info nesletter, says he will be onth mark furnman show today at 3pacific time. that's 5 central, and 6 eastren. Not sure if it is just a local show thoujgh.
RevMalk understands what I was trying to say. Please don't misinterpret my post as being proWT. I'm long gone from there and am better off for it. I just see the mindset developing on this forum that is dangerously close to "JW-think" just pointed in the other direction. When I left the JW's I left that way of thinking too. I will not be sucked back into being judgmental and thinking in "classes".
Guilt by association, huh? So all who leave the JW's are greedy, proud, immoral, drug addicted alcoholic homosexuals, right?
So all Catholic priests are homosexuals and/or child molestors because some are?
Are we any better than them if we make generalizations and judge people as a group?
Stan....I never said ALL jws were molesters. I never said ALL jws "knew" child molesters. I stated that IF they did and kept silent INTENTIONALLY, they were just as guilty as the ones who committed the crime. I never put them all in one "class". Did you read what I posted?
I too, do not believe every JW engages in pedophilia.
I also don't believe all JW's are pedophiles.
However, that said, I must add the following:
Any person who protects molesters and rapists and punishes victims is just as guilty as the molester and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.
And, believe me, I would not want to have protected molesters when I stand before Christ on Judgment Day.
Any person who protects molesters and rapists and punishes victims is just as guilty as the molester and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the Law.
And, believe me, I would not want to have protected molesters when I stand before Christ on Judgment Day.
Sorry April, upon re-reading your post I see your point. I missed it the first time around. I apologize for insinuating that you had the "guilt by association" mindset. However, having said that, I stand by my position that generalizations do more harm than good. An honest JW looking for answers will be driven back to the JW's if all they read on sites like this is messages of hate and resentment. We all need to be careful what we say so as not to appear "unbalanced" in our feelings toward the WT and all it's trappings. The last thing any of us want to do is be guilty of a post that makes a JW say "The WT was right about these internet sites" As for me, I think this will be my last post here. I have been on this forum since July 2001 (under a different name) and I agree with a few of the others recently that it is time to move on. I cannot say I am free of the JW's if I keep dropping by here to see what's happening. I have more important things happening in my life, like my little 1 year old baby boy for example. I should be spending this time with him. As I sit here right now, he is downstairs playing and I am missing it.
