Dissing the JWs.... (page 6)

ScoobySnax

Dan.....for goodness sake...whatever. Can't you understand that I don't FEEL as you and many others do here about the WT/JWs etc.......my post was not a debate. Chill out, have a beer or something. Stop getting so angry when people here don't follow the line , all you posturing has nothing to prove here, the majority are right behind you!! Just try to accept, however boring, vague and bland it is to you, that some just don't feel as you do!

DanTheMan

somehow, I knew that "lighten up" was going to be the response...

You make these generalizing statements, but when I try to get you to discuss particulars, you accuse me of posturing, being angry, needing to chill, needing to drink a beer, etc...

So, I guess my reaction is the same as yours - whatever

Edited by - dantheman on 6 February 2003 19:5:50

Valis

Scooby...I think Dan is trying hard to respect you opinion by getting down to what you really mean via examples to back up how you think. Give some examples of slamming the WT that don't have validity and go at it again. Also, if you think some WTBTS doctrines like shunning are Bible Based(TM) and are valid in our world then get your bible out and do some homework, PROVE YOUR POINT. Otherwise, don't make observations about the ideas of others on the same Bible Based(TM) subject while dismissing them. If none of it matters to you then what difference does it make what others think about it? Or is it perhaps you have concerns that you can't clear your mind of based on some of what you have read here AND/OR based on the vitriolic responses you see to most WTBTS subjects? Zoinks...I need a beer...cheers.

Sincerely,

District Overbeer

ScoobySnax

Valis..... I don't really think I have to validate myself to Dan, he knows as do you where I stand, sure, you and him and most others here have moved on and away from that, but experience from other posts here has taught me many things, one being that to try and defend the JWs you risk, in just a post or 2, something that will set you up for being torn from limb to limb.There are decent people here, but alot of crazies too. Its up to everyone to follow the path they want to, but being as I read this was an "open forum" I took it that you could post how you feel during or after your Witness experience, I posted mine, which just happened to be diametrically opposed to the majority here. I have nothing to prove to you or the rest, as I'm sure you have not with me. Its just a discussion forum after all!!! And you moan about Judicial commitees!"!!!! LOL

DanTheMan

that to try and defend the JWs you risk...being torn limb from limb

So many people on this forum have been torn "limb from limb" by the WT judicial machine, cut off from family and friends for life. You make a vague comment about this being "biblical" and then expect not to get hammered for that????

Likewise, for many of us reading CofC was a watershed in our lives that freed us from JW misery. And you make another offhand and vague comment about not holding his writings in "awe". (Sort of condescendingly implies that we do). Saying you don't hold his writings in "awe" indicates to me that you don't feel like he makes a very strong case against the WT. Am I misinterpreting that? If not, let's discuss some details mate! If so, just what exactly do you mean when you say you don't hold his writings in awe?

Scoob, you have thoroughly made your point that you just don't feel the same way about JW's as many of us do. By trying to get you to discuss specifics, I was hoping that that might help you to see why we feel the way we do.

And if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen lad!

Edited by - dantheman on 11 February 2003 19:12:58

DanTheMan

In your initial post that started this thread, you asked, "Am I missing something?"

So you're wanting to be clued in, right? That's what I'm trying to do! Anyone who has any romantic feelings for that wretched excuse for a religion obviously is "missing something"!

ScoobySnax

I'm amazed you still don't get it........."romantic feelings for a wretched excuse for a religion" is that what you think? "Freed from JW misery".....sure, to you thats how it was. To many thats not how it is, even ones like me on the periphery. Like I said the majority here are with you, it purports to be an open forum for "anything JW related".... that is so long as you tow the anti line. I was merely saying am I missing something in my original post as that wasn't my experience. I was talking about the hatred many express about anything JW related. I just didn't and don't feel that. That was my personal experience of life as a JW, is that not accepted? You accuse me of being closed mind as I won't debate issues such as CofC, or others, well of course I won't. A whole army of ex-JWs is ready to pounce and tear, and I guess I'm not that intellectual or brave enough to fight back. But I do know what felt and feels right in my mind. And that was the point I was trying to make, not everyone feels as the majority does here. I've said before, "Freedom" is only relative to the group you are associated with. And that Freedom is "relative" here too. So yes, step back, and try and understand where I'm coming from in this "open" forum..... and have a beer too..!!!.

ikhandi

Scooby I feel what your saying totally. I realized that I also had very good memories of being a witness while I sat in the audience of this years circuit assembly. I felt like I was missing out and wanted to be a part of all of it again. I have no ill feelings to the judicical commitee that felt it was right to disfellowship me, because I know they had to. I really gave them no other choice. Why have one bad apple spoil the whole bunch? Right now in my life I am contemplating going back to meetings on a consistent basis in hopes of eventually being reinstated, and no I am not crazy, for its my life. The bottom line? only you know what is right for you. Jehovah is still a very real person to me, so to diss his witnesses means I am dissing him personally. So I ain't going there

SixofNine

But I do know what felt and feels right in my mind.

"Feeling", instead of thinking, is a mistake. It's no way to live... although many never learn and go their entire life doing so, to their own and others detriment. It's considered a stereotypically female flaw, but I know many men with the same problem.

DanTheMan

Once again you have categorically refused to address anything I've brought up.

I'm amazed you still don't get it

Ditto.

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