Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 175 Replies latest social current

  • Rattigan350
    Rattigan350

    I am at Scalia's part of the dissent. and he said "I write separately to call attention to this Court's threat to American democracy."

    Exactly what I said.

    "The substance of today's decree is not of immense personal importance to me. The law can recognize as marriage whatever sexual attachments and living arrangements it wishes, and can accord them favorable civil consequences, from tax treatment to rights of inheritance."

    This is the first time that I agree with Scalia.

    " It is of overwhelming importance, however, who it is that rules me. Today's decree says that my Ruler, and the Ruler of 320 million Americans coast-to-coast, is a majority of the nine lawyers on the Supreme Court."

    That is exactly what I said even before I read that. Great minds...

    "This practice of constitutional revision by an unelected committee of nine, always accompanied (as it is today) by extravagant praise of liberty, robs the People of the most important liberty they asserted in the Declaration of Independence and won in the Revolution of 1776: the freedom to govern themselves."


    "Until the courts put a stop to it, public debate over same-sex marriage displayed American democracy at its best. Individuals on both sides of the issue passionately, but respectfully, attempted to persuade their fellow citizens to accept their views. Americans considered the arguments and put the question to a vote. The electorates of 11 States, either directly or through their representatives, chose to expand the traditional definition of marriage. Many more decided not to.1 Win or lose, advocates for both sides continued pressing their cases, secure in the knowledge that an electoral loss can be negated by a later electoral win. That is exactly how our system of government is supposed to work"

  • Village Idiot
    Village Idiot

    I'm going to crosspost this from the jumpsuit thread:

    Religious News Service:

    Some county officials in Southern states — including Cleburne County Clerk Dana Guffey in Heber Springs, Ark.; Decatur County Clerk Gwen Pope and two others in Decaturville, Tenn.; and Rusk County Clerk Joyce Lewis-Kugle in Henderson, Texas — have resigned rather than issue licenses to same-sex couples. Alabama law says county probate judges in the state “may” issue marriage licenses, so some counties have ceased providing the service.

    That's the example to follow.

  • Viviane
    Viviane
    I say that the constitution is for checks and balances and separation of powers there was none in that case.

    OK. So you're just wrong a completely different way.

    The petitioners in this case were not hurt by leaving things alone.

    Still wrong....

    Since it is split liberal v conservative, the ruling can not be taken seriously

    And still wrong.

  • Viviane
    Viviane
    I posted an analysis and you call that whining and tedious? and I did not lose, America did

    You posted a whine because you lost.

  • Viviane
    Viviane
    But the gay marriage movement makes the government an integral part of their marriage by stating that they need to get permission to be married, just to get a name on a death certificate, as in one case. You mean he couldn't just go to his congressman and get help with that? That would be more personal and fulfilling.

    Just for fun, you should try actually making sense one of these days. Or, you know, knowing what you're talking about. Or how government works.

  • SecretSlaveClass
    SecretSlaveClass

    OrphanCrow:

    But heck, that ain't nothing. You should see me play snooker.

    I don't doubt it. i'll play you just not for cash. I'm not fond of throwing away my cash

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    SSC: I don't doubt it. i'll play you just not for cash. I'm not fond of throwing away my cash

    Okay. Match on. No cash.* Just bragging rights. And respect.

    What would you like to play? Best of 5? 7?...

    And...ya gotta give me some time here...I am bit rusty. I need to get back into training if this is to happen...I will need a little heads up. Besides, you will have to travel. And I think it's a long way.

    *I forgot...no cash but loser pays table time.

  • OneFingerSalute
    OneFingerSalute

    @Viviane

    I didn't think so.

    Perhaps a joke would help improve your disposition?

    What is the difference between a woman with PMS and a rabid pit bull?

    Jewelry.

    You are welcome,

  • garyneal
    garyneal

    And once again people who express a dissenting opinion on the gay marriage ruling is treated with disdain and like a pariah. I find the attitudes towards the dissenters appalling.

  • OrphanCrow
    OrphanCrow
    Garyneal: ...a dissenting opinion on the gay marriage ruling...

    A "dissenting opinion" is always welcomed here. Ignorance and inaccurate facts that those opinions are based upon are not.

    I would hope that those positions will always be challenged.

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