Kiwiboy, those details are scary. The effort they make to go back in time. Very, very strange!!
Sometimes I think there is a mole in the writing staff.
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2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure
by pale.emperor 162 Replies latest watchtower scandals
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Listener
They may not have mentioned a date but didn't someone point out that the year's text showing at the Kingdom Hall was the one they had for 1975?
It's so sad that they compare the 1975 fiasco as being as difficult a test as dealing with a loved one dying.
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stuckinarut2
OH MY!
Wow...the shameless arrogance and conceit of the writers (and GB) is mind-blowing!
How dare they try and re-write history and skew the reality....
If the GB would just own their own mistakes instead of shifting the blame......
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Bungi Bill
in the Watchtower October 15, 1968.
This is, therefore, no time to be indifferent and complacent. This is not the time to be toying with the words of Jesus that "concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father." (Matt. 24:36) To the contrary, it is a time when one should be keenly aware that the end of this system of things is rapidly coming to its violent end. Make no mistake, it is sufficient that the Father himself knows both the "day and hour"!Yes, what a bloody cheek these #%$&s have got.
Just like the Nazis, though, at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, their written records condemn them totally.
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Finkelstein
One of the biggest corrupt scams the WTS ever created was to proclaim mankind's existence from Adam forward by 6000 years, most JWS dont even know that the WTS used it 3 times starting with C T Russell in the early 1900's, 1941 by F Franz and again in the 1960's by Franz and Knorr to create 1975 .
Just good old fashion lying, hype and fear mongering to spur up the literature distribution.
It really worked in the 1960's toward stimulating the WTS/JWS for the organization had its highest growth percentage wise in its entire history..
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waton
the organization had its highest growth percentage wise in its entire history.. Fs:
Yeah, it is a heady feeling to be contributing to an event of cosmic proportions, reverberating into the far reaching of the universe, 25 billion light years away. Could it be that Franz wrote this stuff to force "god's" hand into somehow live up to bible stuff? By involving a million plus others, voluntarily, making the case more urgent? Knorr bsw was very skeptical of most of Freddie's fantasies.
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zeb
It may have been covered; I recall a footage of a conv where some speaker was hammering "Stay alive 'till '75".
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Finkelstein
Could it be that Franz wrote this stuff to force "god's" hand into somehow live up to bible stuff?
Na it was just a self imposed marketing ploy, a calculated exploitation of the ignorance of the population at hand.
Too bad those exploited people didn't realized they were being deliberately bullshittted to and for what underlining reason.
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Finkelstein
Sadly due to this intentional fear mongering some people committed suicide.
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Listener
"some were looking with a certain date in view"
What was this date? It was not a date in as much as it was only a year. With this current generation teaching there is no date, as such, but there is still a time setting, which at a maximum, being before approx. 2070 although listening to the Gb talks, they would have you believe it is before 2040. Nothing has changed other than as time passes their 'date' becomes more general.
"I was dedicated to Jehovah, not a date"
This statement is a lot of nonsense, it means nothing. Who was ever dedicated to a date? There were only two scenarios either a JW was
- dedicated to Jehovah, without a date in mind or
- dedicated to Jehovah, with a date in mind
The fact is that by having a date in mind, without question, the individual became dedicated to the teachings of an organisation, not Jehovah's/Bible teachings.
"after that year came and went, most of those who had the wrong expectations made the needed adjustments and they stayed. We didn't run away and we didn't give up, we trusted in Jehovah"
What exactly were these 'needed adjustments'? It was to accept that the organisation were fallible and to accept their teachings regardless. It meant to accept them even against biblical warnings.
It's strange how the JW first explains that his deep study showed him that as no one knows the day or hour he personally didn't accept the org's teaching but then talks about 'we' not giving up or running away. It begs the question as to who he would be running away from. Since he already knew the truth of the matter then he could only have been running away from the organisation, not Jehovah.
It is an organisation that gives itself the right to get anything wrong and expects God to make matters right.
A good question to ask a JW who knows many of the crazy teachings of Russell or Rutherford would be whether they would think any less of a studious Bible student of that time, if they rejected those teachings.