Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

by dubstepped 340 Replies latest jw friends

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  Finkelstein

  I find it humorous when people read some scribed writings from ancient mythological beliefs and that's all they need or acquire to know so much about everything of the world and universe we live in.
  
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  Coded Logic

  The evidence is all around us. In every direction.
  -Old Navy

  What evidence is there for creationism?
  
  
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  HowTheBibleWasCreated

  Eividence? Where. All matter, energy, forces are reduced to the biggest jumble of mess called the standard model. It is so bad that the only way it can be explained is using string theroy. So I ask you does God sit around plucking strings and creating a mess? Because that is what our universe (and likely all the multiverse) is a mess.

  BTW this god created the 2nd law of thermodynamics so you CANT live forever lol
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  Old Navy

  Quote from Orphan Crow:

  My mind has no wall and I don't expect to ever find it obstructed with that concept again

  That is good; the mind shouldn't have a wall and it should be without one until we face certain very difficult propositions. The "Evolution Wall" isn't really an obstruction as such. It is more like the point at which a certain knowledge becomes inadequate and a new form of knowledge is needed to go beyond that point. Whether one does deign to venture beyond it is, of course, a personal decision. Not everyone who gets there is prepared to go beyond.
  
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  Finkelstein

  So what your saying then Old Navy is that the ancients in the middle east got all right as opposed to all the accumulation of accepted knowledge through physical evidence obtained through the scientific study of astrophysics, geological evolution and biological evolution over the past 3000 years have got it all wrong.

  I wonder if you believe then that human ignorance is a indefensible fact when discussing and examining ancient civilizations in their knowledge base of the world in which we live ?
  
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  Old Navy

  Quote from How the Bible was Created:

  Eividence? Where. All matter, energy, forces are reduced to the biggest jumble of mess called the standard model. It is so bad that the only way it can be explained is using string theroy. So I ask you does God sit around plucking strings and creating a mess? Because that is what our universe (and likely all the multiverse) is a mess.

  BTW this god created the 2nd law of thermodynamics so you CANT live forever lol

  That seems to be an unusual point of view in the field of Astronomy. Those who study the universe for as far as the aided eye is able to see tell us how marvelously beautiful it is; how structured and orderly it is; how full of wondrous mysteries it is.

  The Laws of Thermo-Dynamics will not be a hindrance. All things are possible.
  
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  Finkelstein

  how structured and orderly it is

  So if a huge asteroid was to hit earth like it did 40 million years ago killing everything on this planet including all of mankind, would you still say its all so beautiful and orderly ?
  
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  Old Navy

  Quote from Finkelstein:

  So what your saying then Old Navy is that the ancients in the middle east got all right as opposed to all the accumulation of accepted knowledge through physical evidence obtained through the scientific study of astrophysics, geological evolution and biological evolution over the past 3000 years have got it all wrong.

  As the Scientific Process continues any error that may have crept into the evaluation will be set straight. Not that it is all wrong; no, it is not all wrong; but the Scientific Process is still far from completeness Those who pursue the method diligently and honestly will discover additional Truth which will stimulate re-evaluation and refinement. The Scientific Method marches on.
  
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  Old Navy

  Question from Finkelstein:

  So if a huge asteroid was to hit earth like it did 40 million years ago killing everything on this planet including all of mankind, would you still say its all so beautiful and orderly ?

  Without knowing the details of the event, including the aftermath, it is very difficult to form a meaningful opinion. We suspect such things may have happened in our distant past and they likely did. One day we will know why they occurred and for what purpose.
  
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  Finkelstein

  but the Scientific Process is still far from completeness

  There is still more to learn that is true but in a appeal to intellectual honesty what has more basis in probability Creation from a supernatural being of unknown origin or natural laws of nuclear evolution ?