by peacefulpete 26 Replies latest watchtower bible
Peacefulpete:
I do not however understand your condescension....
If you see me making a factual error, then correct it...
...I'm sorry if that sounds condescending because that is not where it is coming from.
So you can call me condescending when I correct you on Judaism, but you can ask me to correct you on Judaism whenever you want while accusing me of being condescending in the process?
I'm sorry, but no. I would rather eat dirt.
I didn't plan to continue seeing that your rule is to freely call me condescending whenever you wish but not find it being hypocritical when you act that way.
However this is NOT your forum. If you wish to post on it, any member abiding by the rules may post to your threads, whether you like their words or not, as long as they abide by the rules.
If you didn't like the way the Governing Body acted, why act just like them when someone speaks up and says something you don't agree with? Why not just return to worship them like the rest of the JWs if you are going to act exactly like them?
And that is my last comment on this thread.
It was a respectful request. One I was sure you'd honor given how polite constructive dialog is like 'eating dirt' for you. I have not given you reason for offense. You turned a polite disagreement into a personal and Semitic attack. You've used multiple IDs and feigned being a sexually assaulted woman before which throws much of what you say into question. With this persona you claimed in past posts to be a professional academic; all I ask is that you act like one here.
This is no longer enjoyable. I'm stepping away to learn from real academics who don't have chip on their shoulders.
Again I apologize for the tone. Thinking back, I'm guessing the other persona was your Catholic wife. As I remember she described you as 'autistic savant'. Perhaps that explains somethings. Either way, you obviously have much to share but be mindful that you may be asked to defend your comments, try not to mistake that for an attack on your Jewishness.
In its earliest form, Judaism evolved out of Canaanite religion, with an early conflation of El and Yahweh from the Canaanite pantheon. It is absolutely the case that the earliest foundation included the idea that God controls the weather, but that view diverged into the ideas described by KOW.
KalebOutWest frequently superimposes the views of modern (usually, secular) Jews onto ancient Judaism. This frequently involves cognitive dissonance, which results in statements such as:
There is general Jewish practice, but there is no and never has been a single mainstream Jewish dogma ... Philo's teachings were not accepted by mainstream Judaism
A substantial number of modern Jews view the stories of characters like Abraham as allegorical, and KOW would have us believe that that was always the case (though reasonably a third to half of modern Jews believe he was an actual historical person, with considerable variation about whether it matters). However, at the beginning of the Achaemenid era, the Jews needed to establish their cultural identity to the Persians in order to affirm their traditional right to their land, and it would be meaningless to view Abraham only as an allegorical figure for that purpose (though their traditional belief that Abraham was an actual person is independent of whether he actually was).
Similarly, the origins of Judaism derived from Canaanite religion point to an original belief that Yahweh was an actual local deity who actively controlled the weather along with the outcome of other events, and it was only later that the view shifted firstly to monotheism, and much later still to a more allegorical view among a subset of Jews.
When challenged on the slightest thing— especially regarding ancient Judaism viewed through a lens of modern cultural Judaism—KOW resorts to various fallacies, usually taking the form of 'you're acting like a JW' (ad hominem, appeal to pride), 'you don't understand Jews' (appeal to tradition, hasty generalisation) or 'you're attacking me' (appeal to sentiment).
