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  • Duran
    Duran
    I can see the countries giving their power to the wild beast.

    I can see that happening as well. But the WTS claims that they do just out of the blue. They don't acknowledge that it will take WW3 to be the pretext for giving the UN the power.

    And then they don't acknowledge that when the UN gets this authority, it is the fulfillment of Rev 13:5 and all that goes along with that regarding the MOTB, etc.

    They will never admit that because they claim (LIE) that those 42 months of authority to the beast took place back in Oct 1914 - April 1918.

    What happens if the BRICS bloc keeps growing to the point of potentially leading to a fragmentation of influence that could weaken the UN's authority as we know it?

    That is the case with BRICS and the powers that be will not let that happen, that's why WW3 has to happen soon to prevent that.

    Experts highlight WW3 'danger' as Israel have 'opportunity' to strike Iran's nuclear bases (msn.com)

  • ukpimo
    ukpimo

    The Governing Body have momentarily shifted to GB Updates or JW Broadcasts for other "special announcements". It wouldn't surprise me if an upcoming GB Update will announce the release of Sing Out Joyfully 1 - 200, and perhaps a later GB Update will announce a release of a new Revelation book. Now they have decided to start playing the game with a longstanding doctrine of Babylon the Great, they can change anything. A new Revelation book must still be in the pipeline, it seems they are treading very carefully leading up to its release. A lot of things have been happening in the world since the covid pandemic, and especially now with uncertainty of war they probably want a new Revelation book to appear as "accurate" as possible for jws.

  • KerryKing
    KerryKing

    Their was an attempt to give the WHO the authority to overrule local government in events pertaining to planet/human/animal health but it failed. Many countries refused.

    Apparently the UN has achieved it somehow through the back door as it were. I don't have evidence, just rumour from a source I can't verify, but if it's true then I think WT already knows about it, and is actively collaborating with the UN and WEF as they must under their 501c3 agreement.

    If it has already gone into effect, then the UN is now an extremely powerful entity. Interesting times!

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  • Vidqun
    Vidqun

    Duran, I do not see WW III in prophecy. I do see a lot of natural catastrophes and celestial phenomena in the pipeline. Perhaps these will herd the nations into the camp of the UN. Under such circumstances a central authority to keep law and order and to organize relief efforts and distribute relief supplies would make sense. Not that conventional war could be ruled out. Jesus did prophesy about wars and reports of wars.

  • truthlover123
    truthlover123

    Anyone notice the number of new halls required for African countries. Seems the numbers given show large growth numbers over there. That means more calls for money to build those halls.

  • Duran
    Duran
    I do not see WW III in prophecy.

    I guess you are not seeing anything about Russia, Ukraine, Iran, NK, China, Israel, Gaza, Lebanon, etc?

    Jesus did prophesy about wars and reports of wars.

    [ 7 Moreover, when you hear of wars and reports of wars, do not be alarmed; these things must take place, but the end is not yet.8 “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom; there will be earthquakes in one place after another; there will also be food shortages. These are a beginning of pangs of distress.] cf. Revelation 6:2-8



  • Journeyman
    Journeyman

    I'm not sure about WWIII as such - that suggests a coordinated, global (or near-global) war of the kind we saw in 1914-18 and 1939-45, and because we're in the nuclear age, would be very likely to lead to near-total destruction of the world. Usually, that also needs a united cause against a specific enemy, eg: the Allies vs Axis powers. But the world is much more ideologically fragmented than that now.

    What looks more likely - and in fact is already happening - is a series of simultaneous and overlapping major regional conflicts that encompass the whole world, while not necessarily all being fought by all nations. That would tie in better with Jesus' prophecy for the end times that "you will hear of wars and reports of wars".

    As for "political elements" turning on "religion", there have been lots of tensions building in the past few decades that could lead to that. The global political movement clashes with most religious organisations over many issues, including creation vs evolution, abortion, sexuality and LGBT issues, and, as economic pressures grow around the world and issues of poverty and homelessness increase even in wealthier nations, the wealth of churches is also coming under the spotlight. Not to mention issues of legal legitimacy, with many religions resisting the authority of governments and states, some overtly (like Islamic terrorists attacking Western governments and even governments in Muslim countries that are not seen as "Muslim" enough, and other conflicts over religion in the Middle East and Asia), some more passively, like the resistance of groups like the JWs who will not join armies, vote, etc.

    All these things are already irritating the political elements of this world, and are likely to continue to do so. Religion is rapidly losing its influence in places like Europe, Canada and Australasia, and while it might seem unlikely for the USA, South America, Africa and the Middle East to turn their backs on religion at the moment, there will come a tipping point where organised religion will be seen as the aggravating factor of all the intractable problems we have and that it will be a solution to unite people and break down barriers. Many people worldwide already believe this to be the case.

  • hoser
    hoser

    I see the UN as a western institution that is reliant on funding from its member countries.

    I don’t see Russia, China or the Middle East Arab countries as following the UN if it conflicts with their interests.

    After WW2 the world was tied on the USD as a reserve currency. to do international business both the buyer and seller had to own US Dollars.

    That is changing. When the west kicked Russia off the Swift payment system they just found a new customer to purchase their oil in rubbles, yuan or gold. They didnt need americas approval.

    As previously mentioned the brics nations are going to be an economic force that will rival or displace the remnants of the Bretton woods agreement.

    The governing body views prophecy through an Americanized lens. The reality is that America is on the decline and so is it’s puppet the United Nations.

  • Duran
    Duran
    I'm not sure about WWIII as such - that suggests a coordinated, global (or near-global) war of the kind we saw in 1914-18 and 1939-45, and because we're in the nuclear age, would be very likely to lead to near-total destruction of the world.
    I don’t see Russia, China or the Middle East Arab countries as following the UN if it conflicts with their interests.

    [ 17 For God put it into their hearts to carry out his thought, yes, to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast, until the words of God will have been accomplished.]

    All needed nations will give their power to the UN when the time comes. This is necessary in order to bring about the 8th and final king that is used by God to serve as the 'hour of test'/hour of judgment'/'judgment on the house of God'. This 'hour' is the 42-month period of GT. It is only GT for those that are refusing to go along with the rule of the UN. Prior to the UN getting the power to become the 8th king, WW3 must occur, it is the death-stroke on the beast as the 7th king. The beast being revived is when it becomes the 8th king.

    Surly nuclear weapons will be used to an extent, but it will not mean near-total destruction for the world, although it will seem like it during that time. It will serve to be the uniting cause to give their power to the UN, which will go along with the thought of God putting it into their hearts too do so.

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