K99: "Apples and oranges Pro.
how can we justify the mention of fruit in a math/astronomy thread, linked to the uniqueness of our place in spacetime? let me try: Apple and Oranges are grown adjacent to a line stretching from Oregon to South Carolina, a line that will see a transit of the Moon before the Sun on Aug. 31, 2017. aka a `total solar eclipse. I hope you will be there. joking aside, whether the universe made itself, or at one point had an creative agent, it behoves us to be grateful, work well for the future, particularly in the processes that brought us here, procreation, and hey, what fun to find out how it was done and perhaps decorated.
Cg:--" Tsunamis , eruptions, earthquakes must prove that this God didn't do it right.
au contraire, these are the very processes that are necessary for life's existence as we know it.