by Simon 34 Replies latest social current
The war has gone excelllent for the Iraqi women and children. It seems than in U.S. the goverment through the media has done an excellent job by HIDDING the true and the real face of the World.
This is what Adolfs Bush "brave" army is doing to Iraq, he is really setting them "FREE"
The military have done a great job.
I hope the US/UK get the UN in to help restore the state. I also hope the US doesn't go round chasing other countries. I have heard that they may go for Syria as the believe Saddams WMD went over the border..........
ISP
Simon,
I agree with you. I, like Francois, am afraid politicts will cause some problems.
Right on, Gopher.
TR
Gopher no doubt you will feel the same when Amerika attacks Syria, or Iran, or N. Korea, Nigeria or whatever our non-popularly elected peabrained fascist leader has in mind.
I think fighting has gone well enough, however this war has damaged us in other ways, our relations with other countries for one.
justhuman --- The pictures really do show alot more than can be said .I suppose this isn't evil ? as said before to ignore evil is as good as being evil . I think that's pretty evil .
Interesting ...
The actual fighting has gone well but was this ever really in any doubt? Massive superior forces with incredibly superior weapons and airpower - no modern war can be won without air power.
A surprising number sound pessimistic about the prospects for real success though (ie. long term stability). Does this mean that people wanted a war ... but didn't think it was going to do any good ?!?!
To compare America with pre-WW2 Germany is absurd. There is no evidence that America is interested in building an empire to dominate other nations.
A comment by Colin Powell which was surprisingly under-reported (I think the Bush/Blair summit was at the same time) was along the lines of:
"We do not intend to go to all this trouble of having a war if we cannot dominate the entire region"
Does anyone think that in 5-10 years time, a lot of big multi-national companies will not have made a lot of money from all this and the Iraqi people will have at least the same standard of living as they did before we started fighting with them?
Justhuman,
How do you know the child in that picture was killed by the coalition's missiles? Iraq has been using anti-aircraft missiles in Baghdad. What goes up, must come down. Many of the civilian casualties are from the anti-aircraft missiles coming back down to earth.
Even if it was a coalition missile, the number of civilian casualties is very small compared to the tens of thousands of people Saddam's regime tortured and brutally killed.
Devon
I was given a bit of stick on this site a few weeks ago after I claimed that the British troops had more to fear from the American military than the Iraqi's. I have given it a few weeks and I think I have been proved right.
Th incidents of 'friendly fire' have increased dramatically since the last Gulf war when 49% of the American servicemen were killed by their own forces.
Today, on Sky news, an embedded and well respected journalist John Simson has made the following report:
FRIENDLY FIRE: ' 16 DEAD'
Sixteen US and Kurdish special forces were killed and dozens injured in a 'friendly fire' airstrike in Northern Iraq. A US warplane - a F-15E Strike Eagle- bombed them as they were travelling in convoy about 30 miles southeast of Mosul. The US military says 4 of it's troops were killed and 5 injured.BBC correspondent John Simpson, who witnessed the bombing, said: "An American plane dropped the bomb right beside us. I saw it land about 10 feet away. I have counted 10-12 bodies - this is just like a scene from Hell here."
A few other incidents of 'friendly fire' are:
March 21. US-s AH-1 Cobra helicopter fired at Abrams tank; a member of the crew was killed.
March 23. British Tornado downed by American missile. The 2 crew were killed.
March 26. British Challenger tank II was put out of action by American troops near Basra, 2 members of the tank crew were killed.
March 27. A group of US marines was fired upon by their own troops near An-Nasiriya; 37 soldiers wounded and 6 armoured vehicles destroyed.
March 31. An American US-s UH-1 Huey was downed in Southern Iraq; the allied command reports that it was not shot down by Iraqi troops.
One of the surviving members of a British Abrams tank which was attacked by an American plane said that the plane made a pass firing on them, and they identified themselves. He then made a second pass and killed the tank commander. He described the American pilot as a cowboy.
Simon,
A comment by Colin Powell which was surprisingly under-reported (I think the Bush/Blair summit was at the same time) was along the lines of:
"We do not intend to go to all this trouble of having a war if we cannot dominate the entire region"
This an interesting quote. Could he have been speaking of military dominance during the war? I'm just curious about the context in which this comment was made.
I think the war has gone as I expected, no better, no worse. Hopefully the fighting will end soon. I think the big questions and real diplomacy are coming up with the reconstruction and instituting of a new government in Iraq. The next few months will be interesting.
rem
