Canada exploring changes to tax rules that exempt religious organizations

by Scully 31 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scully
    Scully

    jhine:

    "Doesn't that describe most churches including those with no specific anti abortion stance ?

    Or would churches that also engage in charitable activities be exempt? Most churches , certainly here in the UK , do strive to help people who are not congregation members in all sorts of ways"

    The idea here is that churches who offer services to the community, such as congregate dining, help for persons in need, counselling services, tag sales for clothing, etc. would not be affected, as they are providing tangible benefits to the community.

    When I recently looked at the JW-related charitable organizations, their objective(s) were all

    "TO ASSIST THE LOCAL UNINCORPORATED ASSOCIATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IN CARRYING OUT THEIR RELIGIOUS OBJECTIVE OF PREACHING THE GOOD NEWS OF GOD'S KINGDOM AND PROMOTING PUBLIC RELIGIOUS WORSHIP DESIGNED TO UPLIFT JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND ANY WHO ATTEND THEIR PUBLIC MEETINGS BY MEANS OF MORAL AND SPIRITUAL INSTRUCTION BASED ON GOD'S WORD THE BIBLE." (upper case in situ)

    That text is word-for-word (with some exceptions for re-rendering in normal type rather than ALL CAPS) in all of the registered JW charitable organizations in Canada.

    When I did a search using "Episcopal" this was the wording in the results:

    "WEEKLY SERVICES PROVIDING PASTORAL CARE TO PARISHONERS. ALSO PROVIDES FOOD ON AN ONGOING BASIS TO POOR AND NEEDY."

    another example:

    "WE DO SUNDAY CHURCH SERVICES ALL YEAR. WE DO AN EXTRA SERVICE FOR CHRISTMAS, THANKSGIVING AND EASTER. WE PROVIDE LUNCHES AFTER SERVICES IN OUR PARISH HALL. WE HAVE MID-WEEK BIBLE STUDY GROUPS. EACH MONTH THERE IS A VESTRY MEETING HELD AT THE CHURCH TO DISCUSS ALL CHURCH ACTIVITIES AND FINANCIAL REPORTS. WE HAVE CHRISTMAS DINNER FOR THE CONGREGATION AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE DO FOOD DRIVES ON SPECIAL OCCASIONS AND DISTRIBUTE DONATIONS TO OTHER LOCAL CHARITIES IN NEED. WE DO MEMORIAL SERVICE ON NOV 11 OUTSIDE BY THE CENOTAPH. MONDAY MORNINGS THERE IS A BOOK CLUB MEETING AND LUNCH IS PROVIDED. THE CRAFT CIRCLE MEETS ONCE A WEEK TO MAKE SCARVES, TOQUES AND MITTENS WHICH WE DONATE TO GROUPS LIKE THE SALVATION ARMY."

    (IDK what the all caps is about, but it's making me woozy )

    At any rate, other charitable organizations can list what programs they offer, what their goals and scope are, and have actual beneficial programs for people in the community.

    Here is an example of The Boys' and Girls' Club:

    "The Boys & Girls Clubs of [removed by Scully] provides a safe, supportive place where children and youth can experience new opportunities, overcome barriers, and build positive relationships. The club provides recreational, educational, cultural and social programs to children and youth between 5 - 21 years old. Programs offered: Breakfast program, Afterschool program, In-service day camps, March break camp, summer day camp, youth outreach program, sexual violence prevention youth outreach, Raise the Grade tutoring program, physical activities (running club, basketball, etc.), cooking programs, food security programs."

    Those are the kinds of activities that would merit tax exempt status, not just promoting a religious ideology.

  • hoser
    hoser

    Jhine

    The new law if enacted would not allow charity status to organizations that don’t do charity work. Recruitment and retaining members is not charity and the government wants to close this loophole.

    They wouldn’t be able to issue tax receipts for donations received. In theory either more income tax would be paid which can go to social programs or the money would be donated to the local soup kitchen or food bank which relieves the government of the responsibility

    Canada is in a political turmoil right now and there is a good chance that parliament will be dissolved so this bill might not make it to law.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    hoser;

    What you just said,, makes 100% sense. Your last sentence.

    As a resident of Canada I see whats going on. Prime Minister is on verge of being ousted. Cant see him lasting until months end.

    Anyway,, this new "" bill "",,, it likely wont get any kegs. With the political climate in Canada right now.

  • jhine
    jhine

    Thanks everyone for the clarification

    Jan from Tam

  • I quit!
    I quit!

    Whether or not religious organizations should pay taxes is one thing but making being pro abortion a requirement for tax exemption is just ridiculous.

  • Simon
    Simon

    Nothing is insane to the current Liberal government of Canada, they are past insanity.

    Many charities don't really do charitable work, and religions are usually on the lower end of those. Tax them all, they are all scams.

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    "Tax them all,, they are scams"".

    Three cheers. They have done more harm ,,, than benefit the community. Three cheers.!!!

  • Bribie
    Bribie

    Trudeau about to announce his resignation!

  • Beth Sarim
    Beth Sarim

    Religions.

    All they do is take,, take,, take & take.

    Rely on the governments for tax breaks & subsidies. And pay nothing back.

    Harm people more than they do benefit them.

    Then do nothing in return that benefit people.

    NOT all the churches on the same level extent. But some denominations are worse than others. If you know what I mean.

    Tax them !!!! 'S'bout time !!

  • StephaneLaliberte
    StephaneLaliberte

    As much as I don’t agree with religions in general, they do meet the requirements for non-profit organizations:

    • Being organized for a purpose other than generating profit for their members (e.g., educational, recreational, cultural, or charitable).
    • Operating for the benefit of the public or a specific community.

    If you take that away from religions based on opinions, you’ll also take away people’s ability to form communities and organize. It infringes on their freedom.

    On the other hand, I believe that specific hate speech should be identified as such and be dealt accordingly, case by case. For instance, the practice of shunning, or when you hear one religious group call for the demise of other groups.

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