Thank you Darkspilver! The future doesn't look very good for WT when most of the South American, Central American countries and Mexico have less than 2.5% growth. In the past, growth in those countries was huge.
2017 Service Year Report Worldwide - INDIVIDUALLY LISTED LANDS and COUNTRIES
by darkspilver 61 Replies latest jw friends
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darkspilver
Phizzy: I find the figures for Ireland hard to follow, an increase in Peak Pubs, but a big increase in the ratio of general population to Pubs, which translates to a huge minus % in the last column. Would this not mean that Ireland has had a huge population increase in just one year ???
haha! thanks! they ARE hard to follow....
It appears that WT has made another typo/mistake (see notes at bottom of table regarding population of Guinea-Bissau)WT appears to have added the population of Ireland (4.75 million) with Northern Ireland (1.85 million) to make 6.6 million
WT Ireland 2016
- Population: 4,713,993
- Peak Publisher: 6,585
- Congregations: 119
WT Ireland 2017
- Population: 6,632,107
- Peak Publisher: 6,747
- Congregations: 120
The figures for Britain appear to be unaffected with the above mistake.
Until the WT updates their own figures - I'll use 4,773,095 from The World Bank
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.POP.TOTL?locations=IE
This therefore gives:Ireland 2017 CORRECTED
- Population: 4,773,095
- Peak 2016: 6,585
- Peak 2017: 6,747
- Increase: +2.5%
- 2016 Ratio: 716
- 2017 Ratio: 707
- Real Terms Increase: +1.2%
In the Grand Totals, this slightly decreases the Population, I also appear to have a mistake/typo regarding the Grand Total Ratios (excl 'Other Lands') - the 2016 ratio is 649.6 (rounded to 650) and the 2017 ratio is 648.3 (rounded to 648) - the percentage increase in real terms appears to be uneffected at +0.2%
I will be looking at editing and re-posting an updated table - I want to see first if WT are going to edit their own data with regard to Russia, Guinea-Bissau and Ireland befor I rush out another version...... -
St George of England
However, population for Ireland in previous YB's:-
YB 2016 (2015) - 6,676,364
YB 2015 (2014) - 6,632,765
YB 2014 (2013) - 6,417,100
YB 2013 (2012) - 6,397,752
I was always under the impression that the WT Society treated Ireland, N and S as one country, or LAND as they call them.
George
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darkspilver
St George of England
thanks - yeah, seems that the 2017 Yearbook with the 2016 Service Year was the odd-one out!
I thought the WT checked this stuff 70 times or something before printing it!!!
The actual Jdub numbers and figure appear robust (ie they match up similiar year-to-year) - the only problem is the population which effects the ratio and rel-terms increase <sigh>
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Anders Andersen
I will be looking at editing and re-posting an updated table - I want to see first if WT are going to edit their own data with regard to Russia, Guinea-Bissau and Ireland befor I rush out another version
If you publish as Google Docs spreadsheet, you can update while the document is online. It's also easier for others to then copy-pasted the data in their own data files....
And of course, thank you very much for your efforts (but I said that on Reddit already too ;-)
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Anders Andersen
For those interested in statistics like these, I also refer to the file created by 88JM containing numbers per country for 1981 to 2016:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/250532/25-years-compiled-yearbook-statistics?page=7
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breakfast of champions
I'm most shocked that:
1) they now report % increase/decrease (they used to report simply "% increase" with a "-" sign to indicate decrease
2) No more 0s or _s but reporting to tenths of a percent e.g., -0.3 percent decrease rather than a _
Why bother?
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darkspilver
breakfast of champions: I'm most shocked that:....
Oh, they're not. I am.
I number crunched the data and devised the table myself, including the column headings etc.
I decided to go with 10ths of a percent to help give a general idea of either up-lift or down-lift.
Likewise I used both the + and the - in front to hopefully make it clearer.
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breakfast of champions
Ah @darkspilver, got it.
I thought that was too realistic to be true!
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Diogenesister
SBF South Africa lost 58 congregations. That's pretty huge.
Didn't they either loose their branch office or at the very least have hundreds of Bethelites sacked - many lifelong. That's gotta effect morale.