Is anyone going to the special talk today?

by dmouse 31 Replies latest jw friends

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    This is the traditional time of year for the Special Talk, just after memorial. The WTS orchestrates one every year and the only thing special about it is that it is called 'special'.

    HS

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    dmouse, thanks for the summary - you saved me an hour of boredom, though I'm not planning to go anyway. Good job!

  • dmouse
    dmouse
    how did they develope Cities of Refuge?

    He didn't, just read the scripture and I thought exactly what you did - what the f*** has this got to do with Babylon The Great and weren't the cities of refuge supposed to be for murderers? He skipped over that bit entirely, we weren't supposed to notice I suppose, or perhaps the scripture could be split into two halves for separate fulfilments. I don't know and he didn't elaborate, just went off on this weird tangent about how the Org is like a place of refuge where we are safe from Jehovah's wrath during Armageddon.

    I really wish I hadn't wasted an hour there.

    No wait, let me look on the bright side. Going to a meeting now and again helps me to clearly understand why I left in the first place and fully vindicates my decision.

  • InquiryMan
    InquiryMan

    Small summary of special talk:

    Babylon the Great defined to be the worldwide empire of false religion, christendom being the most prominent part. (that is false religion = all religions apart from the JW religion, which is defined as the true religion).

    Interestingly, in the outset of the talk it was stated that Babylon the Great will be destroyed by the 10 horns and the Wild Beast, which is the United Nations, The ten horns empowers the UN to destroy religion, according to the talk.
    (compare WT 1st june, 1. study articles, paragraphs 11-12).

    All religions apart from JW, was branded as:
    monstrous, a freak, a whore/prostitute. (almost like in the good old Rutherford era :-)

    It was also blamed for all the people who have been killed on earth throughout history, since the murder of Abel.
    This was substantiated by Revelation 18:24, which was taken very literary.

    The Roman Catholic Church was also blaimed for being responsible for the Holocaust, and bringing Hitler to power.

    It was also claimed that the acts of all non-JW religions require God to revenge (by using Jesus as His Blood-Revenger) their sins that reach up to the sky.

    Then, the JW was then praised for their great love for their neigbhours and for having extraordinory love among themselves.

    It was also made a claim that the 191 members of the UN show anti-religious sentiments, being judged by how they vote. (No proof, or quotations was given for this statement).
    This was read in line with a statement that the UN will lead a unified attack against Babylon the Great.

    Then "proofs" on the composite sign of the end was offered.
    Interestingly, quite some time was devoted to earthquakes.
    It was stated that there was extraordinary earth quake activitiy in our day, and that according to seismologists mankind is living in a time with extra seismic activity. Il Piccolo magazine was quoted (was quited in Awake 1981).

    (However, Awake did acknowledge some time ago that the earthquake activity of our day is not extraordinary, cannot remember the quote though).

    The emphasis in the final part of the talk was that in order to be saves on has to flee to the antitypical cities of refuge, being the org. of JW. It was emphazed the need for staying in the centre of the "city", by fleeing from worldly desires, thus proving worthy of being part of the Great Crowd that is to survive into the New World.

    this was brief synopsis of my impression of the talk.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Babylon the Great defined to be the worldwide empire of false religion, christendom being the most prominent part. (that is false religion = all religions apart from the JW religion, which is defined as the true religion).

    Interestingly, in the outset of the talk it was stated that Babylon the Great will be destroyed by the 10 horns and the Wild Beast, which is the United Nations, The ten horns empowers the UN to destroy religion, according to the talk.
    (compare WT 1st june, 1. study articles, paragraphs 11-12).

    How does this compare with the information in the 6/1/03 WT?

    Blondie

  • Huxley
    Huxley

    I am reminded of the "special sauce" that is placed on Big Mac sandwiches.

    It is mayo and catsup with a bit of finely diced sweet pickle relish.

    Much like the "special talk" when broken down to it's essentials, It is not so special.

    Huxley

  • dmouse
    dmouse

    Inquiryman, did you go to the same talk? It sounds COMPLETELY different from the one I went to.

    No mention of UN or King of the North and absolutely NO mention of earthquakes.

    I thought these were transcript talks?

  • gumby
    gumby
    Please do not ask for details on this post. I will update it accordingly.

    sKally

    You don't have any details on this do you sKally?

    Gumby

  • seawolf
    seawolf
    50 minutes of mind-numbing repetition and banal, unsupportable SPECULATION which barely touched on the theme of Babylon the Great.

    Sounds like one of the best talks yet. Sorry I had to miss it.

  • bluesapphire
    bluesapphire

    Antitypical Cities of Refuge: If you had studied your Watchtower oh say about three or four years ago you would all know that JWs need the city of refuge because even though they go out in service they don't all do their whole souled service. Any time wasted brings BLOOD-GUILT thus they need the city of refuge -- the organization -- because otherwise Jehoover will avenge the blood. Makes perfect sense doesn't it LOL.

    United Nations June 1, 2003: As I stated before, what they put in print regarding the UN will significantly change from what they state via their "special talks" and CO visits. They don't want anything in print that is negative about the UN but really nothing has changed as evidenced by this talk.

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