It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Wow, he sounds like the speech elders were making at all of my congregations throughout my 35 years in the JWs.

    Lloyd Evans just stole the “per publisher” gimmick.

    He rounded up to 115,000 subs, divided it by 0.005 (half a percent) and came up with 575 expected donors.

    But he doesn’t disfellowship his YT subs nor does he account for them going inactive or dying.

    It’s even worse than the WT. At least they go by active publishers and are not counting everyone who’s ever knocked on a door in the past decade.

    So according to Lloyd’s logic, everyone who has ever clicked “subscribe” on his channel over the past 10 years figures into his math regarding how many people should financially support him.

    So the plantar’s wart has returned. This has none of the emotional heft of the previous begging stunts (“I may have to sack Dijana and Tibor and lives won’t get saved!”) to a blatant cash grab complete with lame sketches about how people can buy time with him.

    He’s graduated from his patented faux-altruism into the full-on whore phase.

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    So now its "rewarding work"? I thought he hated it.....and EXJW's, for that matter?! He thinks watching a you tube vid is "free stuff" & equivilent to poncing drinks all night off some poor sod in a bar? I can just imagine him down the pub - ducking out when it's his turn to stand a round, after someone else has been buying the drinks all night! He really can't help revealing his assholery, can he?

  • raymond frantz
    raymond frantz
    I don't know what is more pathetic his constant begging for money or the gullible comments on this video ,people who immediately subscribed to his patreon, it never ends.
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  • JohnR1975
    JohnR1975

    It’s about once per year now he does another begging video. Why doesn’t every other YT apostate need to do them but he does?

  • TonusOH
    TonusOH

    "Hmmm... put out a useful video, or beg for scraps? Decisions, decisions..."

    As for the math, that is just wishful thinking. Look, if each of his 115,000 YT subscribers paid him $25, he'd have a windfall of almost $3 million! And $25 is such a small amount! Imagine if they donated $50 instead? Well, if they're in for that much, why not $500??? It's just a one-time donation!!! Come on, guys! Can you say... ONE THOUSAND HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS?!?!?!?

    I think he is just trying to pad the numbers before the end of the year. Now that his subscriber base has stabilized around 300, he figures he might have an easier time building it back up. He just needs to produce one begging video every couple of months, and before long he'll be riding the wave back up to 350. And then... and then...

    ...and then he'll need to produce actual content, and his subs will drop back down to 300...

    I agree with his fan on one point- we don't even need to bother anymore. He has just about reached bottom.

  • JohnR1975
    JohnR1975

    Wouldn’t it be great if he said ok I had to go and get a job to support my pioneering ops I meant activism work.

    I mean really what does he do all day? How much time does it take to put together one of his usual low quality videos that are becoming so infrequent lately?

  • Ron.W.
    Ron.W.
    He's pathetic. But he gives us something to do.

    👍👍👏👏🤣🤣

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Well he made a pitch for 200 more suckers to send him more money. It looks like he’s got about 40 - that’s around 20% of the target. Plus we will see how many drop off at the end of the month.

    He said he needed 570 to be “sustainable” and not be “forced” to issue yet more begging videos. Is that an implicit promise to pack it in if he stays well below 570? Because he doesn’t look like anywhere near that. In reality he will probably still be collecting money from any remaining donors years after he’s stopped producing videos altogether.

    Notice how he said that Ad revenue gets him $1200 a month but he didn’t mention how much his patron and other begging measures generate. In one sense that’s odd because it was patron numbers he was aiming to increase. On the other hand, perhaps he believes that if he revealed how much patrons already send him each month then people would be less inclined to send him any more. So it’s a pretty cynical partial disclosure of his financial situation.

    Whatever tricks he pulls, it seems pretty clear he’s making less money out of begging this year than he did last year, and that he’ll make less money from begging next year than he did this year. That’s got to be depressing. Has he got any kind of plan to get out of this spiral? Two obvious plans would be improve his channel or else find a job instead. He doesn’t give any indication of doing either. 🤷‍♂️

  • Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Las Malvinas son Argentinas
    Has he got any kind of plan to get out of this spiral? Two obvious plans would be improve his channel or else find a job instead. He doesn’t give any indication of doing either.

    Evidently his ex-wife has figured this out and has a job. Lloyd seems to be the only holdout.


    Key words being “in the car on my way to work”, meaning that she has a real job she needs to get up for and drive to.

    Read what else she has to say about learning to love herself. Absolutely shameful and proof positive those two letters Jabba the Hutt sent her were not just a “one-off”.

    Notice how he said that Ad revenue gets him $1200 a month but he didn’t mention how much his patron and other begging measures generate.

    €1630 is the median wage in Croatia, but that is gross. He’s very close to the median wage there and that is counting only YT revenue, not Patreon, YT subs and the PayPal donations he is soliciting. So he’s probably at least at double the median wage and he still wants more.

    Anyone desire to take a guess as to what a 41 year old single mother who hasn’t worked for over 10 years would be earning in Sisak right now?

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