Ewwww
It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon 2910 Replies latest jw friends
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6820
Batten down the hatches
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notsurewheretogo
dontknowwheretogo1
Yes I posted that and is still the biggest reason to me that came out of the whole saga that he completely ignores.
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It is important to note this man was an activist against cults like he JW's for hiding child abuse, for helping child abusers and not helping child abuse survivors.
He fails to see why so many people are upset with him over the fact he campaigned against sex abuse whilst at the same time partaking of sex workers where there are clear trends, especially in Thailand, where he admitted to using (dating he said lol) sex workers and how the two actions are fairly diametrically opposed to each other.
How can you take serious someone who fights sex abuse whilst using sex workers who the majority in the industry might be abused in some form or fashion or are clearly exploited.
The fact he fails to see why the two are irreconcilable is the reason to many ex-JW's that this man is abhorrent.
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6820
That's what it all comes down to
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Simon
As someone mentioned earlier - "I can't be expected to control myself" is the rapists "excuse" (not an excuse at all). It's BS. It's always a choice.
It's a choice to regularly cheat, and to use prostitutes, and to do it in countries with real problems of sex-trafficking and sex-tourists who don't care about the victims.
Any "activism" you might do for CSA victims starts to look more like an effort to clean your ledger or worse, a way to access vulnerable people. The least worst option is that it was just an opportunity to profit financially and turn it into a money-making endeavour.
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TonusOH
It is good to see people pointing out that he made a decision/choice, not a mistake. People use the word "mistake" to take the edge off of bad behavior. But there is a big difference between doing something by mistake and deciding on a deliberate course of action.
Misspelling your name on a form is a mistake. Putting salt in your coffee when you meant to use sugar is a mistake. Visiting prostitutes for years behind your wife's back is NOT a mistake. Being an obnoxious jerk to people is NOT a mistake. Those are revelatory behaviors. His livestream was a mistake. Thinking he could bully Kim into silence was a mistake. Being a greedy douchebag is NOT a mistake. Sexting women behind his wife's back is NOT a mistake. With enough examples, I think we can make the point clear.
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Las Malvinas son Argentinas
His livestream was a mistake.
Biggest one by far. These people on Reddit didn't link Jake's video or the many rebuttal livestreams. They had the original and this would have probably blown over had he said nothing and asked for privacy. But anyone who knew Lloyd, and this would probably include Kim as well, knew that after that statement, Lloyd would take it public with guns blazing.
He still could have mitigated some of the damage had he carefully crafted a response and edited out the things he'd later regret, but Lloyd wanted payback and he wanted it right then and there. He revealed things he'd love to take back right now. But it's too late.
In what was the most self-indulgent thing Lloyd said in the Aftermath video, he mentions that his and Tibor's work has a legacy that would last "decades" and "long after I am gone". If I were him I would hope that is not the case. If people are still speaking about Lloyd Evans in the year 2080, guess what else they are speaking about?
You can't permanently filter out the bad. What do we remember about Bill Clinton? A good or bad president depending on your political viewpoint, and Monica Lewinsky, "I did not have sex with that woman", the stained dress and a cigar.
If he truly cared about his children and what they hear about their father, he'd leave and call it a day. This is not going away and that Reddit thread is further proof. If people remember Lloyd, it wont be for the right reasons. This stain follows him round for good and the video will always be out there. It's only a matter of time before his children stumble upon it. After all their names are mentioned in the livestream. They both have fully English names, the surname of Evans and live in Sisak. It won't be hard for anyone foreign or domestic to connect them with what their father did and said.
I'd do everything I could to remove myself from this stain and now. It's his only chance at saving his reputation. Leave and hope people stop talking about you, which they eventually will if he's gone for long enough. But he won't and will have to Lloydsplain to his grown daughters one day that it was all lies, despite what Daddy said on that video that is still available on the internet.
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Diamondfrog
I can’t get noise on the reddit link of his original video
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usualusername1
Lloyds Bank.
I know there's a joke there somewhere...
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AudeSapere
Diamond Frog wrote:
I can’t get noise on the reddit link of his original video
Lloyd had a LOT of tech issues on that livestream. The 1st minute and a half he was muted. It's 90 minutes of a shit-show.