đ¤Śââď¸ the doofus who thinks that âall the nations serving Babylonâ means âJewish exileâ would proceed to lecture me about the contents of Jeremiah. đ Seriously, just go away. I have already provided a website that furnishes all necessary details for a decent understanding of the relevant topics.
How Will They End 1914 Teaching?
by EmptyInside 282 Replies latest watchtower bible
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
This is plain and utter nonsense for one of the themes of the OT is the fact of the Exile.
This is the kind of dishonest stupidity he has to resort to, as if saying there is no mention of a 70-year exile is the same as saying there was no exile at all. So blatantly dishonest. đ
Most of the Jews were exiled in early 597 BCE. Those exiles were told in 594 BCE that Babylon would have 70 years. Later, more people were exiled when Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BCE. Later still, some more were exiled in 582 BCE. Some Jews returned in 538 BCE, and the period from Jerusalemâs destruction until their return was 49 years, the same period of paying sabbaths indicated in Leviticus.
Babylonâs 70 years definitely ended in 539 BCE âwhen Persia began to reignâ, after Babylon was âcalled to accountâ and therefore began in 609 BCE, which is when Assyria disappeared from history. Jeremiah said the nations had already been âgiven into Nebuchadnezzarâs handâ by the time he addressed both Jehoiakim and Zedekiah.
Poor hopeless âscholarâ.
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Jeffro
the doofus who thinks that âall the nations serving Babylonâ means âJewish exileâ would proceed to lecture me about the contents of Jeremiah. đ Seriously, just go away. I have already provided a website that furnishes all necessary details for a decent understanding of the relevant topics.
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Personal insults do help your cause. The fact a nation in servitude to a foreign power with its population deported away from its homeland for a fixed period of time would by any definition constitute a fact of Exile.
Your website is nothing more than an assortment of pretty coloured charts combined with commentary replicating COJ's thesis and SDA scholarship from the fifties.
scholar JW
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Jeffro
This is the kind of dishonest stupidity he has to resort to, as if saying there is no mention of a 70-year exile is the same as saying there was no exile at all. So blatantly dishonest. đ
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The fact of the Jewish Exile is widely acknowledged from the time of the Babylonian invasion of Judah under Neb until the release of the Jews under Cyrus which period is defined in the biblicard record by numerous authors as 70 years.
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Most of the Jews were exiled in early 597 BCE. Those exiles were told in 594 BCE that Babylon would have 70 years. Later, more people were exiled when Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 BCE. Later still, some more were exiled in 582 BCE. Some Jews returned in 538 BCE, and the period from Jerusalemâs destruction until their return was 49 years, the same period of paying sabbaths indicated in Leviticus.
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This is simply your interpretation of the history of the period. There were two deportations of Jews under Neb but the Exile as a national catastrophe did not begin until all of the population had left Judah leaving the Land desolate for a fixed period of 70 years until they returned home 70 years later to rebuild the Temple, its city and Land which by that time had fully repaid the sabbaths.
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Babylonâs 70 years definitely ended in 539 BCE âwhen Persia began to reignâ, after Babylon was âcalled to accountâ and therefore began in 609 BCE, which is when Assyria disappeared from history. Jeremiah said the nations had already been âgiven into Nebuchadnezzarâs handâ by the time he addressed both Jehoiakim and Zedekiah.
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Babylon's 70 years ended with the Return of the Jews under Cyrus in 537 BCE because as Jeremiah prophesied the end of the 70 years was described as a fulfilment, from that point on Babylon's judgement went into effect after 537 BCE, not in 539 BCE.
Poor Jjeffro is misled by false teachers and surrenders his thinking ability. So sad, to bad.
scholar JW
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cyberjesus
The zombies will be zombies no matter what.. 1874 came and go and then many other dates... they just find new understanding to new prophecies on their magic book and they blame the zombies for getting ahead,, and business as usual... 1975 was an official date... now the new zombies dont even know anything about it...
there are babies soon-to-be-zombies that in 50 years will be part of the GB 34.0 that will vomit new dates to new prophecies.. and there will be still people defending them and doing math to prove it..
their real enemy are not the failed prophecies... but more internet access.
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Beth Sarim
I just don't think it's possible for the Borg to drop the nonsensical 1914 doctrine,,,without the Borg collapsing in on itself.
Likely the Borg will have to 'fizzle' it out,,,fade it out mention it less and less until it's more or less forgotten about.
You know how the Borg uses manipulation and repetition to brainwash people by saying words and phrases over and over for it to stick in peoples minds. But just in reverse, by saying it less and less until it's forgotten about. The Borg thinks the vast majority of it's sheeple are stupid. Well,,,guess again,,,,they're not, that''s why the Borg has to scare it's members from researching.
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Jeffro
âscholarâ:
Poor Jjeffro is misled by false teachers and surrenders his thinking ability.
Even his choice of words sounds culty đ
Beth Sarim:
You know how the Borg uses manipulation and repetition to brainwash people by saying words and phrases over and over for it to stick in peoples minds.
Yep. âscholarâsâ persistent mangling of direct statements in the Bible into something different is a prime example.
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Phizzy
"Scholar" said : " all of the population had left Judah leaving the Land desolate for a fixed period of 70 years until they returned home 70 years later"
Archaeology clearly shows the land of Judah was NOT left without population during this period. Occupation and farming continued.
But, this has taken the Thread away from the question in it's Title, I will be intrigued as to how they will get rid of the 1914 nonsense, if they ever do, if they get rid of 1914, then the 1919 "choosing" goes, so they are in a tight corner.
They tried the method of just mentioning 1914 as a "given" that did not work, so they painted themselves into that corner again by trying another specious explanation of 1914.
They are stuck with it, like a rotting, stinking, dead animal tied around their necks.
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Jeffro
It would be funny to watch people like âscholarâ if they did abandon 1914. But no, they canât. That is to say, if they did, it would be like the Great Disappointment resulting in most leaving and a few breakaway sects with altered nutbaggery.
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Jeffro
Phizzy:
Archaeology clearly shows the land of Judah was NOT left without population during this period. Occupation and farming continued.
âscholarâ would argue that the evidence is just misinterpreted (as it tends to be in all the really inconvenient places đ¤Śââď¸). I suppose the modern population of Tyre are misinterpreting their existence too, since it would never be rebuilt or even found. đ