heartbroken and not sure what to do...

by Khaleesi 34 Replies latest social relationships

  • kairos
    kairos

    Those symptoms do not sound "high functioning" to me.

    Limited focus, meltdowns, emotional disconnects, and distractions of everyday life need to be managed.

    My anxiety and meltdowns I have experienced are almost exclusively JW cult exit related. The other day it took several hours before I felt like going out for the day. Couple of times I just had to lay down. Sometimes a dark room can help get one back on track.

    My weakness is people that genuinely act terrible in front of me.
    I used to just ignore them and let it go. After being taken advantage of for so many years in WT, I refuse to let people screw with me. This tends to get me into hot water...

    You are welcome to PM me if you like.

  • Sabin
    Sabin

    Khaleesi, it is so nice to have you join us. WoW! what a 1st thread you`ve written here. 1st I`d like to say you are very brave to speak of such a personal issue & I think alittle anxious yourself. To be truthful I believe you maybe blowing this a little out of proportion, 80% of married women don't have a fulfilling sex life & the average couple have sex once a month, so the fact that you are getting it 2-4 times is way above the average. Also you mentioned at the beginning that he was having trouble finding a job, this can have a real devastating effect on a mans self- confidence most men are wired with a need to provide for their spouse especially if they have grown up with old fashioned principles when they feel that they are not doing this in a satisfactory way( in a way they are happy with) then yes it absolutely can have a profound impact on their bedroom performance & in other areas of intimacy. Calm yourself down, most men would never dream of going to the doctor`s to talk bout this, he will, sounds like you got a good man there don't be so quick to throw it away. You talked to his MUM about his inability to perform, I`m sorry but I have to say it THAT IS WRONG, put yourself in his shoe`s, how would you feel if your dad came to you & said "so your husband tell`s me you don't orgasm during sex, well my girl you better do something about that God say`s you should". I`m not meaning to be a cow, I just want you to see it from another perspective, HIS. Also you may need to look at your own issues here, you said you were in a abusive marriage 1st time round, so I`m guessing you are alittle insecure right. Sometimes us girls when we`ve been shown WRONGLY that we are not loveable we find it easy to shower some-one with love but cant quite except that they love us back just the way we are. So intimacy & sex becomes our way of allowing our man to love us back, & we need a lot of loving to make up for all the love we imagine we are missing out on. I don't know if this is hitting the spot, if it is then I would say it`s 6 of 1 & half a dozen of the other. The thing is you can work it out together if YOU BOTH want to. Your marriage the 1st time was not nice your second can be great, however I promise you it will not be perfect. Hope this help`s. SABIN.

  • SecretSlaveClass
    SecretSlaveClass

    I doubt his issue is hormonal although it is possible. I did a little research on Aspbergers upon reading your thread, here is a good link describing the symptoms although I'm sure you've already done considerable research http://www.activebeat.co/your-health/10-symptoms-of-aspergers-syndrome/ but reading those symptoms myself does seem to correlate with his behavioir.

    Sabin claims the average for having sex is once a month for married couples - I find that hard to believe. What are those statistics based on? Eighty year olds?

    I've been married for almost twelve years, am forty-six and I'm still like a rabbit. The average man's testosterone starts to decline in his late twenties to early thirties and many men need testosterone replacement therapy by the time they are in their forties in order to maintain a healthy lifestyle. His issues though do not seem testosterone related to me but psychological. Also as Sabin mentioned, stress can be a problem affecting a man's bedroom performance. You said he has spoken to a doctor - is this doctor a therapist? If not I think a psychologist/psychiatrist may be the way to go.

    Obviously you are a very affectionate and sexual person and like myself, sex is extremely important to me. I personally couldn't imagine being in a relationship without regular sex. As WitnessMyFury asked, how was it you didn't pick up on any of these behaviors prior to your marriage? Or did he suddenly develop these issues after marriage? If that is the case then something is definitely strange about the whole thing.

    Don't give up on your relationship until you have both at least made an exhaustive effort to figure out the problem and work it out. Keep us informed!

  • dubstepped
    dubstepped

    Ugh, saying that he is in his thirties and is too young to have sexual issues is so ignorant. There is this feeling in the world that the average guy just needs to see a woman and boom, erection and let's get it on, and it's perpetuated by ignorance. If you don't know if it's too early or if Aspies have issues maybe you should get your learning on. Blaming doesn't help, and neither does pressure, for anyone no matter their gender. Not every male just wakes up in the morning ready to bang the first thing that walks by. There are some for which that's a sole focus. You married a guy that seems to be very intelligent and has a disorder that makes him connect differently, sometimes because such people are lost in their own head.

    I am definitely somewhere on the spectrum myself. ADHD with maybe some Aspie, a dash of OCD, and formerly very anxiety ridden. My mind just goes and goes. Sex is more important to some than others. If he's not holding out because of spite, maybe he has a problem that falls into that for better or for worse, in sickness and in health, category. Maybe you two need some marriage counseling. Maybe you need individual therapy for each of you. You definitely need to spend time trying to understand one another. There's nothing wrong with being ignorant as long as your goal isn't to stay there. Just as there's nothing wrong with him being sexually dysfunctional as long as his goal isn't to stay there. Sex and intimacy go hand in hand. Intimacy isn't just having sex, it is how you relate to and understand one another. Often sex in long term relationships is great for a couple of years and then there's a switch over from erotic sex to intimate sex, and this culture doesn't promote the latter. Sex is portrayed as something automatic that should just be a natural reaction to a stimulus. It doesn't work that way forever.

    I know you feel rejected, been there done that myself, but what I learned is that it wasn't all about me and my needs. I am still learning, and that part was about me. I didn't understand where my wife was coming from, and ultimately I didn't understand myself either. Don't look to blame. Look to find common ground and intimacy based in deep understanding of how you and your partner work.

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose
    very difficult and i am on a breaking point, I guess if he doesn't give much thought into our anniversary that is my sign...
    I don't think you are being fair to him to make this a make or break issue. You know Aspies don't pick up on social niceties, this is something even regular guys have problems with, so what chance does he have of knowing this is important to you?
    Don't get me wrong, I think you have a right to decide that life with someone with these issues is not what you want, but if you do decide to stay you need to spell out those things that are deal breakers, then learn to live with those things that are just petty annoyances.
    So tell him your anniversary is coming up and that it's important to you that he do something romantic for you that shows his commiment. One good thing about Aspergers is that once you do get through to him he will probably never forget it, this is a discussion you only need to have once, lol. Yes, it takes some of the romance away, but it's can be a good example of adjustment s you can make to have a successful marriage with someone who is different.

    And whatever he does, don't criticize him for it. If he thinks getting a vacuum cleaner is a romantic gesture, don't tell him otherwise. As they say, it's the thought that counts. I had an Aspie co-worker, I said something that hurt his feelings and he didn't talk to me for months.

  • JWdaughter
    JWdaughter

    Refusing intimacy with a wife. . .I was the wife for 20 years. It wasn't aspergers, it was rejection and control. I should have ended it long before. At least he will see a doctor, but it seems intractable. I'm sorry. A stubbornly cold marriage partner is soul killing. How else can we take it other than personally?

    The rejection was like a knife. It kills self esteem and takes the fun out of everything because your always wondering how they even feel a bout you. Is he gay? Is he getting it elsewhere? Does he like me at all?

    There willunlinkely be a recognition of anniversary. You do your thing, he won't.

  • Khaleesi
    Khaleesi

    How come I didn't see it for 4-5 years? Not sure I had to ask that question myself, we didn't live together and many times when I would confront him about his behavior his responses was "I don't express myself a lot, I have a difficulty expressing emotions", many times he will say hurtful things and then come back and apologize, then he said he had his guard up because he was afraid I would break up with him, so I think I confused normal relationship problems with the lack of social, empathy, and emotional bonding.... I went on a tropical trip with a good friend of mine 3 years ago, female friend, and he was very upset but at that point I was prepared to break everything off because of the lack of emotional connection/bonding. I went on my trip had fun and I didn't call him or even considered contacting him during and after my trip... after my trip i was ready to be moving on with my life and carry on... He was the one who contacted me and said he really loves me and can't imagine his life with out me he doesn't want to be with no other woman, so I cave in, he drew me back in.... I think the reason why he can't find a job is because once he is interview they notice something off and I think him having Aspergers makes things worse for him to find a stable job.

    LisaRose: yes he knows exactly how important it is and i would think for him tooo, its our 1st year...but with aspies it seems they can't grasp the importance of many meaningful events or situations, in their mind they don't see It that special or don't see the purpose of it . They don't discuss feeling because in their mind "you should know how I feel about you, I wouldn't be with you if I didn't feel anything" ...I wanted to do something special at the date of our marriage just leading up to the first year, like 6 months, and he said "why do people do that'? I said "I want to do that, its important to me" and he says "oh, but shouldn't we just wait until the year"? I give up. He didn't get the part "its important to me"... frustrating explaining everything step by step.... When I do tell him about somethings that bother me he tends to forget, many times I feel he is molding our relationship to his way only. When I tell him what I like in the bedroom or something he says I am complaining so I asked him okay what is the difference of complaining and saying things without complaining and still conveying what I like, to tell me so I can do it right so it doesn't come across like complaining. He replies "oh I guess there isn't" so I continued to express to him what's important to me and he was quick to tell me "there you go again complaining" I asked tell me the difference give me examples, he didn't say anything just to stop complaining, after which I just gave up.

    JWDuaghter: Yes it's knifes in your body each time, it kills me and very rejected I feel... it's hard to understand how can a man just reject you like that but to them it's not rejection... there was this friend of mine, who i never said anything too about my problems, threw himself at me, he knows I am married and i was shocked by his advances, I stood my ground and cut ties with him.... You get men coming at you and the you have at home doesn't even realize the threat they put you in. Of course I rather terminate any relationship before I even dare to do anything.... Exactly that is what crosses my mind, is he over me, is he bored, does he even think of me in a sexual way... I work out so appearance is not an issue...

  • Sofia Lose
    Sofia Lose

    JW or not, you attract the wrong men. Leave now, go on therapy to find out why you are attracted to losers.

    Be totally selfish about this or you will be miserable enough to have it end in divorce later on.

    Leave. Leave now.

    SL

  • Witness My Fury
    Witness My Fury

    Is he on medication? That can right royally feck up sex drive depending on what he's on of course.

    Has he ever had a sex drive? or is this a constant non thing rather than a temporary glitch?

    Some people just have a very low or non existent drive, maybe you skipped having that conversation where you talk about what you want and need in that regard.

    If he is physically capable, masturbates, looks at porn (has an interest in sex), but cant or wont get aroused with you, then you have problems. If he likes porn, what type? You dont sound the type to tolerate it btw.

    Maybe your gaydar doesnt work? You missed the aspergers after all. (sorry)

  • dubstepped
    dubstepped

    You ladies are great at reading into why men might turn you down. And there's a difference between turning something down and rejecting it. I might turn down an opportunity to go out with friends if I'm tired, or maybe depressed, but it doesn't mean I'm rejecting them as friends. It means I'm tired or depressed. My friends wouldn't take it as rejection if they knew me and that I battled depression or anxiety or whatever. You're taking it all too personally. I did the same and the path I tool of blaming my wife caused scars that are still there over a decade later. You're not the only one in a vulnerable position here.

    I would also ask why sex is like water to you? Do you just naturally have a high drive (some do), or are you using it to fill a hole in you (pun intended)? Most people don't require 3-4 times weekly. It has been shown that statistically you may be more active now than the average. Could it be that actually you're the one with the problem? Something to think about. I found out that many of our issues early on had to do with me, and I put it all on her.

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