Minimus,
Well, depending on the method of payment either $2.99 or $3.99 a minute.
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Minimus,
Well, depending on the method of payment either $2.99 or $3.99 a minute.
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If someone engaged in this activity yet did not masturbate, they would only be charged with what??Wasting their time.
LOL
D-oh I should have been disfellowshipped! I got my first french kiss at 14...two years after I was baptized.
I tend to agree with logansrun....I have never heard of people being DF for french kissing....I have never heard of people being reproved for it either.
~Beck~
It seems to me that the Witnesses in the USA are more puritanical than Witnesses elsewhere in the world. The most extreme stories of activity that is a df'ing offense, inactives being chased-down to be DA'd or df'd, extreme viewpoints etc all seem to come from the USA.
Is this a cultural thing? Are JWs in other lands more lax, or more reasonable? Does the fact that the religion was started in a country once inhabited by Puritans have any influence on this?
Just my observations. JW policies just seem more casual in countries other than USA.
I think some extreme viewpoints are more an individual thing than a cultural one. We had an elder who thought colourful neck ties were offensive and worldly - of course he was a man who preferred to wear pooh-brown suits as opposed to navy or dark green.
Now the only time I would consider french kissing to be a DF offence would be if one of the parties were already married to someone else....this could have been the case. If so, then it could have been termed as loose conduct just as holding hands with someone not your mate is also termed loose conduct.
~Beck~
Surely you jest? No, no. I believe you. After all you are speaking about the most perverted thinkers on the planet, aren't you? Anyone who tells the elders what goes on behind closed doors deserves everything they get.
No French Freedom Kissing, huh? Any thing else is like kissing your sister through a screen door for all it's passion.
And Prisca, you are entirely right in your evaluation of American prudishness. It drives me wild...mainly because it's all so hypocritical. I've known elders who sat on JCs and disfellowshipped people for doing the same damn thing behind closed doors that the elder was making a career doing. How can any elder thus operating claim any personal ethics at all? But our entire society is prudish over here, no matter how far some people and groups push the first amendment. Hell, I can remember when Eisenhower read "Lady Chatterly's Lover," (Lawrence) and pronounced that the American people didn't need to read that kind of material. My mother had a copy of it in her underwear drawer, "hidden" under her undies. I saw her reading it one day and as soon as I got the chance I turned the house upside down till I found it. Then I read it. Whoa! I liked it straight away. I think I was 14. Next I found a copy of Peyton Place. What a hot book that was in its time. But read those two works today and they are TAME compared to what's now available, but STILL there is this holier-than-thou self-righteousness hanging over our society like a fog. I think it's got something to do with the fact that virtually every societal group has just GOT to have some other group to look down on and feel superior to. Otherwise, I can't explain it.
francois
Question: French kissing between married or unmarried couples? I've never heard that before. Glad I left before the new light on phone and cybersex or I'd feel sooo guilty..LOL! ~Aztec
The French kissing was done by young adults who were dating. Because these elders made a private reproof and not a disfellowshipping that actually got to the Society, they were able to enforce their belief that this "sin" was of a judicial nature. Had it gone to the Society, I suspect that the disfellowshipping elders would have recieved a letter questioning their action......but maybe not.
Do you mean that someone coud be df'd for kissing someone that's French?
French kissing.
neyank