Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

by Roger Kirkpatrick 75 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    Not sure where this came from:

    "What is remarkable about the current F&DS teaching is that in 1981 the Watchtower described this very concept, that only the leaders represent the Slave class, as deceptive and from objectors; in other words, it was an apostate teaching.

    "Witnesses of Jehovah understand that the "slave" is comprised of all anointed Christians as a group on earth at any given time during the 19 centuries since Pentecost. Accordingly, the "domestics" are these followers of Christ as individuals.

    Some readers may feel that this is a rather sectarian view of matters. Or they may object to the idea that the "slave" and the "domestics" represent the same class, one as a composite body and the other as individuals. The objectors may argue that not all of Christ's anointed disciples have a share in preparing the spiritual food, so that perhaps the "slave" pictures only the leading ones, and the "domestics" those they serve in the congregation.

    There is no point in trying to force an interpretation of the parable. Self-deception is of no benefit and is spiritually damaging. Therefore, we must look to the Scriptures for an understanding. In doing this, what do we find?[ ... ] Thus we see a clear Scriptural basis for saying that all anointed followers of Christ Jesus make up God's "servant," with Jesus as its Master." Watchtower 1981 Mar 1 pp.24-26

    One must wonder, if God truly appointed the Governing Body to dispense truth since 1919, why it took them 93 years to dispense the truth about this doctrine. How can can anyone possibly believe Jesus is using these men to dispense truth, when they were actively teaching against the very doctrine about themselves they now claim is truth?"

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    In 1919, these were the names of some of the Faithful Slave...although they never knew they were appointed. Their appointment was determined in 2012

    1. J.F. Rutherford
  • C.A. Wise
  • W.E. Van Amburgh
  • A.H. Macmillan
  • Walter. E. Spill
  • J. A. Bohnet
  • George H. Fisher
  • And a few pictures:

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman

    Brother Fisher caught my eye.

    JW unlike “Christendom” have changed their beliefs and will change their beliefs because of better understanding of scripture and because they don’t claim to be infallible. JW admit they’ve been wrong.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    Of course they have to admit they are wrong when time runs out on their false predictions which originally were "not of human origin" and in retrospect were of man after all. Once they were the Lord's dates and now are man's speculation. Funny though how they never introduce new light as more speculation. Their speculation is always truth that must be believed as the word of God.

    How many times have the changed their speculations and then gone back to their original speculation. Instead of the light getting brighter, it merely blinks on and off.

    So Fisherman, is the 1919 appointment speculation truth. What is the evidence for the 1919 Brooklyn appointment on scripture?

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?

    Are you high?

  • Fisherman
    Fisherman
    Of course they have to admit they are wrong when time runs out on their false predictions

    They don’t have to admit that all of the anointed are not FDS for example.

    Also, interpretation of BiBle prophecy is not a prediction whether it turns out true or false. It was Jesus who prophesied aka predicted the last days. He spoke in symbolic language so he obviously wanted his disciples to form a belief. Such interpretation of Jesus’s prediction, what he meant by it is only a belief, a conclusion, an interpretation— and not a prediction.

    The entire Bible needs to be translated and interpreted not only prophecy: remove the turban and lift off the crown it will not be the same put on high even what was low and remove even the high one a ruin a ruin a ruin I shall a ruin I shall make it and it shall certainly become no ones until he comes who had the legal right and I must give it to him 7 times will pass over you until you know that God is ruler in the kingdom of mankind and to the one he wants to he gives it even to the lowliest of mankind this one will be called God holy Gods son and God will give him the throne of David his father. Jerusalem will be trampled by the nations until the Gentile Times are fulfilled. JW interprets this to mean 1914 the year this was fulfilled. That is interpretation not speculation and not prediction….

  • waton
    waton

    At least with the all anointed F&DS class there were always anointed since pentecost, Bible writers were part of the slave, now, with the 1919 belated recognition, all those old folks were outside the recognized elite.

    Most NT writings were done outside the inner circle too. Spiritual food from wild sources. food for thought. Paragraph 16 of this Sunday's study.

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    Not a single comment or question regarding my earlier explanation? who is the vineyard/field/household? israel. Who is the owner/master ? Yahweh. Who were contracted,hired,indentured to work? The Jewish religious leaders. How were they to be judged? How well they took care of the estate and recognized the time of the arrival of the son/messiah. When would they be judged? In the that generation. The authors having written right after or a few decades after 70 no doubt felt the repeated parable focus and meaning was self evident.

    Let the texts interpret themselves.

  • Vanderhoven7
    Vanderhoven7

    @Zane

    Hey fella, welcome to the forum!

    Thanks for sharing. I look forward to learning more from and about you.

  • Linda14
    Linda14

    The watchtower writers are known to use that method of disproving a sensible opinion that the majority of the GB members did not approve. When the wt says "a reader may object", or "some may reason", they sometimes have the minority GB members in mind or some who are of the Branch committee who believe that that position is more sensible. But since perhaps they were in the minority, the vote of the majority GB member will win.

    In other to quench the idea of the minority, they smartly bring the opinion to bear in a wt article, and disingeneously discredit the idea.

    However, when the minority in GB get more supporters of their idea, the previous unreasonable idea is adopted.

    The process of getting the 'truth' among Jehovah's witnesses GB is not by fair unbiased research. An idea could be true, but majority of the GB has to approve it for it to be adopted. So, not all members of the GB even believe what is often published as truth. Sometimes, a minority doesn't believe it, but you would need to keep silent as soon as the majority idea gets out as truth. If any teach any idea contrary to that of the majority, it is apostasy. So all keep mute as if all agree with the so called truth.

    Their process is understandable but that process hinder truth.

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