Overlapping Generation

by pandorasbox1914 126 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  TonusOH

  NotFormer: How does it work?

  It doesn't. The moment you take a concept and change it this radically, it has to make clear and obvious sense once it is explained. In this case, the explanation is clear, but it makes no sense at all. If you used this approach for any other matter, people would immediately realize that you had made it up and that your explanation was invalid. They would assume you are either a liar or insane.

  The whole idea behind the 'second fulfillment' of the claim by Jesus was to show how close the end was. When the generation that was aware of the events of 1914 passed on, that should have made it clear that they were wrong. When the generation that was young in 1914 passed on, that was further confirmation. When the generation born in 1914 passed on, the whole mess should have long been thrown in the trash.

  Even the GB realized this. In 1995, they decided to quietly drop it. Whoever decided to revive the doctrine and try to extend it with such a stupid explanation is a liar and an idiot. That the GB agreed to promote this explanation makes them all liars and con men. And also idiots, because it's just that stupid of an idea.
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  Halcon

  Is this still an official teaching on the website?
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  Vidiot

  Notty - “…Will the memorial become an annual event wherein the JW congregations of the world get to watch a livestream of the GB partaking?”

  Know what’s really funny?

  The way things are going, that doesn’t even sound all that weird.

  😏
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  Vidiot

  TonusOH - “…And also idiots, because it's just that stupid of an idea.”

  In telling you guys, there’s folks in the Writing Dept. who are trolling the leadership, just to see how far they can go.

  😁
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  KalebOutWest

  ElderBerry

  Not born before but actually served long enough to be made anointed...

  And that brings up an important point for me (and I am so glad you posted this): so, so much of this is just plain arbitrary.

  For those of you who remember the "good ole days" when the previous Governing Body had everything based on types and antitypes (which was actually somewhat based on both the allegorical readings of the Church Fathers and some of the midrashic ideas of the Talmudic rabbis--though indirectly), this new Governing Body seems to have pushed aside the antitypes not just because they are based upon old calculations that won't fit any longer but because they themselves are likely uneducated.

  It is just random or upon their whim that they have decided there should be 2 groups in this new "overlapping" model* which, if you ask yourself why you as an ex-JW are scratching your head, it's because you are waiting for something that this new Governing Body is not offering.

  What have they never offered about group number 2? Simple: a scriptural reference.

  Where in Scripture does it say that a "generation" is made up of two overlapping groups?

  Or three? Or four? Or seven? Or 67,439,923.99? Why just "two"? Why can't it be more? Why did the previous Governing Body believe a "generation" was made up of only "one" group up to now?

  Show us the Scriptural support for two overlapping groups (or more)? Where do you get (and stop) at the number 2 for "generation"?

  And what is the meaning "served long enough"? How "long" is "long enough"? Define that with Scripture, please? Now.

  No, not the old excuse: "Well, I will have to go do some research and come back." If you believe something now and are preaching it to people and offering this to others to accept, then you should know it back and forth until you drop. Show me, or you are lying--to yourself and others.

  And use my Bible, not yours.

  It's all arbitrary. There's no Scriptural reason. It's just a chart. They had to pull out a chart and a pointer, not a Bible for this new explanation.

  I thought this religion was based on the Bible.

  It's not. It's based on a chart.

  I don't believe in charts. Do you?

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  *--It is often mistakenly referred to by some non-JWs as overlapping "generations," but it is really overlapping "groups" and merely still one "generation," at least according to the way the Watchtower is stretching things out.
  
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  ThomasMore

  WTC can call it anything they want but it was a desperation attempt to avoid the consequences of a failed prediction - pure and simple.

  Since they were forced to amend the 1914 generation teaching, there has been no substitute teaching that follows any logic. Remaining JW's (minus those who are not actively planning to fade or DA) cannot explain what the current thinking is. This is a REAL problem for the GB who surely know that they are one pivotal moment away from having to admit that they have no clue.

  These men don't seem to have a plan to address the elephant in the room other than growing beards and allowing women to wear pants to the meetings.
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  Vidiot

  ThomasMore - “… Remaining JW's (minus those who are not actively planning to fade or DA) cannot explain what the current thinking is. This is a REAL problem for the GB…”

  Only if they actually expect JWs to explain it.

  😏
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  DesirousOfChange

  

  Five generations? Or, one "overlapping" generation?
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  KalebOutWest

  DoC, you completely flubbed it up.

  Now imagine that I have a pointer (that's very important), and I use it to point out the women in the photo from left to right.

  Are you all following my invisible-since 1914 presence pointer? Okay.

  The first two women on the left, the one standing in the lighter dress with the round cake tied to her head, and the woman sitting in front of her in a nun's habit or something, they represent the first group.

  To the right of them we got frumpy grandma holding sleepy Edmond and some woman wearing a girdle wrapped on the outside of her dress (honey, girdles go on the inside). These three other people represent the second group.

  Thus this proves that the "generation" of Matthew chapter 24, as so clearly shown in this photograph and by my invisible pointer (which is present but you can't see), is made up of two groups not "two generations."

  This also proves conclusively that the Governing Body has been chosen by God since 1919 and predicted the End Times before then (how a group chosen after 1914 can predict 1914 is confusing, but hey, who's got the invisible pointer here?), so shut up and get ready for a third, more exciting new group to be added to this picture sometime in the near future.

  (Oh, and that last lady is also wearing a cake on her head.)
  
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  DesirousOfChange

  Thus this proves that the "generation" of Matthew chapter 24, as so clearly shown in this photograph and by my invisible pointer (which is present but you can't see), is made up of two groups not "two generations."

  That's almost as confusing as Splane's ex-splane-ation.