A question for christians

IronGland

If there are any Christians here,I have a question. Why didn't jesus write anything down? Was he Illiterate?Did he write it down and the papers get lost? Why do we not have his acount of the events of his life in his own words?Not even a speech? Jesus was the son of god and he was charged with bringing gods message to the world why didn't he write it down?Why did it takes years before the story was written. It seems like to important a job to leave up to mere mortals.Why not have the son of god write his own biography so there could be no doubt as to the authorship.

Dawn

IronGlad - I am a Christian, and I have had the same questions as you!

There are some theories that his personal gospels have been lost - or are being hidden. Who knows - something I hope to find out some day.

StinkyPantz

Because it was all made up?

Oops! Sorry, I'm not a Christian!

azaria

Iron Gland: ?If you’re a confirmed atheist why does it matter to you? As a Christian I don’t proselytize. I
haven’t tried to convince anyone to believe what I believe. (though I have tried to answer a
question that someone had asked me). I’m not here to change anyone’s mind because I know that
I can’t do that. But what really annoys me is when some here belittle someone else’s beliefs that
are different than their own. (cynical & sarcastic come to mind) I would also object to a Christian
lambasting the atheist’s belief. We all have a right to believe what we want; free choice. Some of
the people here that profess to be atheists seem so angry, demanding Christians answer their
questions, yet the atheist doesn’t have any answers. If you are a confirmed atheist then be
comfortable with it and let it go. Why argue about something that you don’t even believe in; or is
it that you want to convince others not to believe? From what I see the JW mentality is still alive
and well on this site. Some here who used to be witnesses probably claimed that they were the
only ones who were right and now as atheists they claim that they are the only ones that are right.

Double Edge

First of all, Jesus wasn't illiterate. The scriptures say that he read the Torah to the congregation.

Why didn't jesus write anything down.....so there could be no doubt

Well, I suppose it would be 'nice' to have something that Jesus wrote, but that wouldn't change anything at all. Believers and non-believers alike would be having the exact same conversations .... it all boils down to FAITH... a substantiated faith, one that is NOT belief, just for belief's sake.

I totally agree with Azaria - if you're an atheist, what does it matter?

Gopher

Why not have the son of god write his own biography so there could be no doubt as to the authorship.

If this is a question you can answer, give it a shot. If it's a bad question, say so and then write why you think so.

Yes IronGland did get a little sarcastic with his question was Jesus illiterate? But he brings up some points that I think Christians ought to be able to shed some light on. Why did 4 imperfect men write his story instead of the one perfect man? Would there have been difficulties if the Son of God himself wrote his memoirs? Would it be too diffficult to verify? Or was he too busy to be an author?

I don't see these points as attacks on a belief. Of course I could be wrong, but the questions raised some curiosity in me too. I'm still on a continuous course of journey towards finding my personal truth. Having questions like this squashed discourages such a journey.

now as atheists they claim that they are the only ones that are right

Did IronGland claim to be right? Or is that only "between the lines"?

Shouldn't we be able to have firm convictions here without being accused of having a JW mentality? Persons expressing differing convictions and supporting them with logic helps make this board a vibrant place, as long as we remember Simon's wish "keep it civil".

azaria

Having questions like this squashed discourages such a journey.

Hi Gopher: My problem is not in discussions where people have different opinions. Most of us are on a journey. I know that I will never have a lot of my questions answered. I'm not the most intellectual but I am a very curious person. Even with a couple of acquaintances of mine I sometimes feel that I'm being patronized because I ask questions that some may not want to hear or deal with. (like - "there, there, some day you'll understand"-but I could be wrong and maybe just a touch sensitive) But I know that asking questions is the only way you grow. (for those that believe) I don't think that God criticitizes us for asking questions.

Did IronGland claim to be right? Or is that only "between the lines"?

I'm not sure if IronGland claimed to be right or if he was being sarcastic. If he asked an honest question I don't have a problem with it. I have a problem with some here who have accused people like me for being simpletons. (plus a number of other negative & sarcastic remarks) That I object to.

Gopher

I have a problem with some here who have accused people like me for being simpletons. (plus a number of other negative & sarcastic remarks)

Ah! I definitely have to agree with you there. Accusations and sarcasm also discourage a good old-fashioned back-and-forth discussion.

SixofNine

Well, I suppose it would be 'nice' to have something that Jesus wrote, but that wouldn't change anything at all.

I'm so fucking sick of this comment, I've just heard it (and it's equally foolish varients) one to many times. It would change EVERYTHING.

Go your way in peace, your agenda has made you braindead.

jgnat

IronGland, I did some deep meditation on this a few years back on how Jesus went about his ministry and how he launched his disciples to action. I think he did not write a book because Christianity is not perfected or spread through simplistic manual reading. Let's see how he chose to impart his beliefs:

1. He hand-picked about a dozen fellas to eat and sleep and pray and live with him.
2. He showed them, by example, how to talk to people and pray for people.
3. He then sent them out to do as he did. He corrected them as necessary.
4. Then he left them to it, but promised to always be there for them.

It seems to me, then, that Christianity is a very personal experience, that is best spread one-on-one, with people that know us well. To share our hearts and expose ourselves others, good and bad, requires a degree of oppenness and honesty that leaves us vulnerable and exposed. This kind of communion takes great courage and discipline. Jesus exposed his heart to his disciples regularly, and told them to model their behavior after him. Note the emphasis on action rather than empty words. His approach was obviously very successful. Fellowship, friendship, and sharing hits a deep chord with us all.

This is a very different kind of Christianity than Crusader Christianity (kill them heathen!) or Policy Christianity (the bible says nothing about Computers therefore they are Pagan).

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