Hey Azaria,
I understand you better now. Indeed lengthy arguements about something you don't believe in can be quite a drag.
I deliberately used atheists’ belief because I think that all people have a belief system, whether they believe in God, Wicca, in themselves, others, wealth, success, etc.
Ofcourse everybody has some framework like a window into which they peek into the world, however believing in God or wicca is quite different from believing in yourself, others, wealth and success which are more goals then beliefs in terms of worship...
So...you speak Dutch? elaborate please....(here or send a PM)
Greven