Please read what someone posted on Suicide, and tell me what you think

by LyinEyes 27 Replies latest jw experiences

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  Agent Double- O- Soul

  When I saw the photo of LyinEyes mum, I wrote something up but was too unsure & shy about whether to post it or not. Here's part of it:

  Recently I got told about a fella who always had a smile, a 'Hello', a handshake & chit - chat for me anytime we met, even though I didn't really know him that well. Just a sorta casual acquaintance I suppose, but a warm & friendly guy. Unfortunately somehow he & his best friend's girl somehow got involved. Consensus is he got crushed so much by what he'd got into that mental illness & strange behaviours followed, eventually jumping out of a window. Not a very high up one, but enough to end it all for him. My mate telling me about this - he knew him better than me - then said "That's fourteen people I've known who've killed themselves, from the meetings", which is, admittedly, quite a figure.

  This may be unusual, but there it is. LyinEyes, I never got t say how an attractive wee person your mum seems from that nice wee photo. My mate still doesn't know how that 14 could've been 15. But that's another tale.....

  Take care.......

  00-Soul.
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  breal

  Shortly before changing my lifestyle which eventually led to me being DF’d I tried to commit suicide. I remember the shrink at the hospital asking me if I felt bad for trying to kill myself, but I said “Nope I feel bad for not succeeding”… My whole mentality at that time was greatly affected by never feeling good enough as a witness or in our hall…plus family stuff.

  Now the family stuff is still there (however exacerbated by being DF’d) but the witness thing is gone and all I can say now is life is great and thankfully I failed in my attempt….so yes I believe the JW organization influences people into a negative frame of mind and can contribute to someone trying to commit suicide.
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  ApagaLaLuz

  I agree with what 'someone' posted
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  gumby

  Hey Chevysnats,

  You ain't still mad over that thread which everyone chewed your butt out for are ya now? The "Get over it thread"?

  You are not the first to say something that didn't go over too good. Don't quit posting your stuff.........we like ya.

  Gumby
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  ApagaLaLuz

  Gumby.... I was never mad. In fact I didnt really mind. Wanted to get something off my chest. I leave for a bit and come back. Seems everytime I decide to check back in, it's the same stuff over and over again. Gotta vent sometimes. But thanks for the kind words Gumby. Been playing more shows lately, and the combination of screaming my lungs out to punk rock and alcohol can make for a rather jaded disposition sometimes.

  My JW cousin killed himself. And 3 non-JWs from Highschool did too. So what's that ratio? 3:1? People from every walks of life get down-trodden and discourged and do drastic things, not just the JWs
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  Brummie

  Chevy, it shouldnt be so disheartning to see how an exjw board would focus on Suicide in the Watchtower rather than say in high school. It goes with the territory.

  I suppose the difference with High school is that it didnt offer people eternal happiness in paradise and yet leave them desperate in a wilderness.

  BTW Good to see you again, I always did appreciate your posts.

  Brummie
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  gumby

  Punk rock eh? Damn....how old are you?

  I have a close neighbor who also sings and plays punk. He is about 30 somethin but a really nice dude.

  As far as your comments about dubs getting to much of the brunt of things....I agree. Sometimes people pick the shit out of them to the point of being unfair. I suppose it's hard to explain EXACTLY what you mean on a forum. I admit I was a little taken back by your thread but you have been here long enough for people to know you didn't mean to hurt anyone.

  Glad you weren't hurt over it my friend....take care

  Gumby
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  LyinEyes

  00-Soul, thank you very much for what you said, and I know how you feel sometimes I write things to someone and am too afraid to post it. I bet I would have enjoyed all that you had to say, hugs, .

  Chevy,I just wanted to make it clear that I do understand that suicide is in all walks of life, but as Brummie said, this is an ex jw board and alot of the issues we talk about have to do with our attitudes because we were once JW's , we lived thru the crap and need to vent about all the things we lost due to this cult. Some lost their friends, some lost God, some lost themselves, some lost their lives(blood transfusion denial) and some lost loved ones due to suicide , in my opinion ,because of depression mixed with cult related issues .

  Again, I am not an expert on suicide by any means. I have known many who have done this. Some were witnesses, in fact most of them were, 6 out of 8 were witness, so my statistics on what I personally know about swing the other way. But I am not here to debate statistics or to even say that all suicides in the JW religion are due to the religion itself. I can not presume to think that I know all the circumstances of events that lead to a person taking their own lives.

  But I do know my mother's story, inside and out. Had she been a free person, to think for herself, to get the help that she wanted , instead of looked down on for being weak for wanting help,,,,,,,,if she just had the freedom that I have, maybe she would be here today.