Has your life gotten better as an athiest/agnostic? (page 6)

drwtsn32

Stinky, do you have two accounts on here or what?

drwtsn32

I feel as if God has been protecting me. I've gotten out of some scrapes with relatively little damage when there should have been more dire consequences.

A lot of people have felt like a guardian angel has protected them in certain situations. But there have been at least as many situations where people have died. Did god not protect those people?

I just don't see how Earth could exist without a God. If we were any nearer or further away from the sun, we couldn't exist. If the axis wasn't titled the way it is, we couldn't exist.

This is a non sequitur... it doesn't prove or disprove god. If the earth was not the right conditions life wouldn't have evolved on it. Or it would have evolved differently to suit the different environment. In either case the climate on earth supports created/evolved life very well.

I've taken astronomy. What I learned in there only backs up my beliefs. Sorry, but all this research on scientific proof isn't enough to sway me.

Are you closed minded or just confident? Confidence is great, but not when it closes your mind.

I have a hard time with this line of reasoning: the world/universe/life is so complex it could not have formed on its own. God must have done it. But if a more complex god formed everything, why did that god not require creation/design? He's more complex than the universe, right? The same universe that you say is too complex to come into existence on its own.

Oxnard Hamster

I never meant to imply that I was special. And believe me, my life hasn't been perfect either. My parents have never physically abused me, but you could argue they have emotionally and psychologically. They constantly give me BS about how I shouldn't trust anyone and blah blah. As a result, I was always paranoid and never had many friends. Every time I would plan a road trip, they would come up with some stupid reason as why I shouldn't go, such as if I wrecked, my friend's parents might sue us and take away all our belongings. I brought up kids take trips all the time, but they are like "Well, that's them."

I just meant in some cases, I felt as if God was helping me.

drwtsn32

I just meant in some cases, I felt as if God was helping me.

I think feelings are deceptive. If god is real he should manifest himself as something more tangible than a feeling that people get. At least that's what I'd hope a god would do.

Oxnard Hamster

Are you closed minded or just confident? Confidence is great, but not when it closes your mind.

So people who believe in God = close minded. Got it...

Okay, so I can't explain anything. I'm by no means a Bible scholar. If you people want these questions answered so bad, then ask a minister. I just believe God exists. It says in the Bible he was there in the beginning, meaning he wasn't created by anything; he was just there. If you think that makes me close minded, fine.

drwtsn32

So people who believe in God = close minded. Got it...

Not at all, but you said "nothing will sway you." That's what I was referring to.

Sorry, I did not meant to offend.

Oxnard Hamster

Maybe I'm mis-reading everything, but I'm getting the impression that you atheists think we Christians are a bunch of dumb, irrational, un-educated hillbillies.

Now, I know the JWs discourage college education, but you can find lots of college students from practically every other Christian group. Many of them are straight A students in fact. We're not a bunch of uneducated morons who struggled just to get through high school.

drwtsn32

Maybe I'm mis-reading everything, but I'm getting the impression that you atheists think we Christians are a bunch of dumb, irrational, un-educated hillbillies.

I think that's the impression people get whenever they disagree on religion. Each side imagines the other thinks they're complete idiots and cannot see the most obvious evidence for their viewpoint.

Religion is just a tough topic to discuss without people getting agitated. The same goes for politics.

I'm just thankful that since we're now free of the WTS, we can freely discuss different viewpoints.

drwtsn32

By the way, you are absolutely correct that there are many educated, intelligent people that are theists. Intelligence level does not directly correlate to theistic beliefs.

Oxnard Hamster

I don't think so. But even you admit that you don't know much about the Bible.

Yeah, I don't. But you all are asking for the impossible. You're asking me to justify and more or less prove why I believe in God. How in the world am I supposed to do that? Especially when the religion is based around faith.

If you seriously want answers, then I suggest you talk to someone more qualified than me. All I can tell you is how I believe. I do know some things about the Bible, but I can't scientifically prove everything.

And if neither side can be proven, then why are you scoffing at my beliefs?

Has your life gotten better as an athiest/agnostic?

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