The HLC do not pressure JWs

by usualusername1 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  usualusername1

  The Hospital Liaison Committee (HLC) for Jehovah’s Witnesses does not pressure members to refuse blood transfusions. Rather, their role is to support Jehovah’s Witnesses in adhering to their pre-existing religious beliefs, which include a strict prohibition against accepting blood transfusions based on their interpretation of biblical scriptures.

  Jehovah’s Witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age, and refusing blood is a deeply ingrained religious conviction, not something imposed during a medical crisis. The HLC’s purpose is to provide assistance in accessing bloodless treatment options, facilitating communication with healthcare providers, and helping ensure that the patient’s choices are respected.

  While the HLC strongly supports adherence to the beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the ultimate decision remains with the individual. If a member were to choose to accept blood, the HLC would not force them otherwise; however, there may be religious and communal consequences, as accepting blood is seen as a serious breach of faith within the Jehovah’s Witnesses community.

  Will never use ChatGPT again!
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  Balaamsass2

  "Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action. It is closely related to credulity, which is the tendency to believe unlikely propositions that are unsupported by evidence.[1][2]

  Classes of people especially vulnerable to exploitation due to gullibility include children, the elderly, and the developmentally disabled".[2][3]

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gullibility
  
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  Beth Sarim

  It is to my understanding that elders on the liason willl be at the JWs bedside to make sure the JW follows the WT direction.

  What a JW does NOT know,,,,,or doesn't know if they don't know about the the Sheppard the Flock of God book,, is that if they do accept a transfusion is worst case scenario they will only be reprimanded or talked to and lose their privileges for a period of time.

  The elders know this,,,but the poor average JW DOES NOT!!!

  The average JW could die,,,not knowing about this ""lose privileges"" loop hole. The elders know & they enforce this policy without the rank and file being totally oblivious to it,,,, thinking if they """,accept blood I will be kicked out"". Not so

  God bless the internet & all the leaks!!
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  Jeffro

  Jehovah’s Witnesses are well-informed about their stance on blood from an early age

  That's a very telling statement. It's not really 'their stance', it is a stance dictated to them.
  
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  Jeffro

  Beth Sarim:

  What a JW does NOT know,,,,,or doesn't know if they don't know about the the Sheppard the Flock of God book,, is that if they do accept a transfusion is worst case scenario they will only be reprimanded or talked to and lose their privileges for a period of time.

  Not quite. It is true that if they are considered 'repentant' for accepting life saving medical treatment, then they might only be reprimanded. But the worst case scenario is that the person may be deemed to have 'disassociated by their actions' and subsequently shunned if the person is adamant that they made the right choice in accepting a blood transfusion.
  
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  Jeffro

  usualusername1:

  Will never use ChatGPT again!

  That's a bit like saying you'll never use a phone again because you once dialed a wrong number. AI chatbots are only as good as the training data, which can contained biased information. The problem comes in not with ad hoc use of AI chatbots, but relying on non-trivial information without verifying it. This is the case for any information source, not just AI chatbots.
  

  Nobody really cares if you don't use ChatGPT.
  
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  Beth Sarim

  Jeffro;.

  That's right.

  If a witness kisses their asses enough & claims they were petrified,,scared & weak at the time..... then maybe the eldubs will let them off the hook for a while,,,,,removal of privileges.

  This is unbeknownst to the average Witnesses

  Yet,,, the elders know & force the no blood doctrine at the hospitals. The average witnesses are blindsided by this. Pure evil. Jason Zelda had a video on this the other day.

  Worst case scenario,,,,,you get kicked out,,,,kiss the elders asses,,,,, work your way back,,,,get reinstated in 6 - 12 months or whatever.....
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  NotFormer

  I'm not sure what the legal subtleties are, but in conversations I've had with hospital doctors, I get the impression that they've told the HLC to GTFO more than once.
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  Biahi

  Not Former, I’ve also heard that JWs refuse blood in front of the HLC, when they leave, they tell the doctors to go ahead and give them the blood they need. Some have been transfused in the middle of the night, because in the daytime, other JWs are there.
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  Beth Sarim

  ""Transfused in the middle of the night"",,, nobody is there.

  A Doctor,,his/her main objective is to save your life. They will always default to that objective.

  Take the blood. Like at 2AM when no elder,,,is in sight or busybody is there supposedly seeing it...