The Bible’s Viewpoint - Does God Change?

by Surreptitious 29 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Hamas
    Hamas

    Hi Dansk !

    I understand your doubt.

    However, to me, I cannot share it. My God is important to me; it helps me through the day. I cannot doubt lol !!!!

    Allah be praised !

  • peacefulpete
    peacefulpete

    Men create gods in their image. As cultures change thru education and exposure to new philosophies naturally their ideas about the imagined spirit world change with them. This why no one clear impression of the God of the authors can be formed when reading the Bible. The Bible simply reflects the growing sophistication and broadening world view that occured among the Jewish peoples thru interaction with the Babylonians, Persians and Greeks.

  • gumby
    gumby

    You wanna know what gets me Peacefulpete?

    How someone can invent something and then believe in it? Don't people think as you and I who create these gods? Don't they look at themselves and say........"I made this up.....how can I believe in something not real"? I don't understand how people can and want to believe in something, to the point they do,.......when they doubt things about what they believe in.

    Gumby

  • logansrun
    logansrun
    On the other hand, in both parts of the Bible, Jehovah is presented as the righteous Judge of those who repeatedly, grossly, and unrepentantly violate his laws and harm others

    You mean just like Uzzah, the guy who Jehovah nuked because he wanted to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling over? Yeah, he was a gross, unrepentent wrongdoer who did this a number of times before God passed judgment on him.

    B

  • gumby
    gumby

    What about the old bastard Moses? The poor guy simply said" Do you want US to bring water from this rock"..........and old mean Jehovah doesn't let him go into a land he worked his ass off for!

    Real kind guy that Jehovah is. Glad he's not my dad!

    Gumby

  • KGB
    KGB

    Gumby,

    was not Moses like 900 something years old when he died? Maybe he was just merely a tool for God? I sure would like to see anyone of us live that long after that many years I think I would be ready to die too, hell most people after 60 if asked will tell you they are ready to leave this world. They will tell you that they are tired and that the thought of going somewheres else actually sounds pretty good. No I don't think that God had anything to do with Moses death but he knew it was coming and that was why he sent him off into the wilderness to die alone as so not to allow his followers to make a martyr out of him.

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    You mean just like Uzzah, the guy who Jehovah nuked because he wanted to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling over? Yeah, he was a gross, unrepentent wrongdoer...

    C'mon logansrun, Jehovah can knock out whoever he wants. After all, he's ALMIGHTY GOD.

    Jehovah is jealous. He didn't want any self-appointed heroes like Uzzah, no matter how well-intentioned. No siree.

    Jehovah appoints heroes that need adulation, like Moses, David, 21st-century elders, etc. etc. You cannot volunteer to be a hero. If Jehovah didn't ask you, then don't even bother trying.

    Uzzah was guilty of "independent thinking", ancient-Israel style. He deserved what he got.

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    What gets me about the Uzzah story is that it was David's fault in the first place because he's the one who had the Ark transported in the wrong manner (according to the Law), on a wagon instead of being carried. Then when it tipped, Uzzah got zapped. One more example of how David got off easy (Bathsheba incident, Census) and others suffered instead.

  • rocketman
    rocketman

    KGB, Moses was 120 yrs old when he died.

  • gumby
    gumby

    There are many cases in the bible where Gods justice is NOT on a level keel.

    He lets David commit adultry with a beauty, then allows him to kill her hubby so he can have her, and then Jehovah the just god, kills their kid! Yes....he kills davids kid and yet Jehovah himself says in HIS own" WORD" , that the children DO NOT answer for their parents error. That is an outright contradiction!

    Yet poor old uzziah did his damnest to be loyal to his god and spare the Ark of the Conenant and Jehovah smites him. No court of law in any land that was halfway honest would act in such a maner in how they would deal with these situations.

    Lot slept with his two daughters, noah got blasted, Rebbecca and Jacob lied to their lord, and god overlooked it yet he would kill others for doing much less. Why? Because he is god and can act different than we, whom he has taught to be like HIM?

    He made us in his image and wants us to act as he does. How do you suppose he would feel tward us if WE carried out justice the way HE does? Would he say we are unjust? Yes he would. Why would he say we would be unjust..... yet HE would be just?

    Gumby

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