by ScoobySnax 36 Replies latest jw friends
LadyLee......... one of your first lines (amongst others) was:-
" I would suspect that discussions with the sole purpose of slandering the WTS are very few........"
Really.
Its not that I can't be bothered to answer you line for line, its just that its late here now, and having just read all of it, I'll let it stand as you typed it. Each can make their mind up from my original enquiry.
Best. Scooby
I think some here love being exJWs, they love exploiting their apparent loss and others who maybe have been genuinely hurt.
Yes they do.....and so do I !
I really like exposing an Organisation that is to blame for murder.........don't you scooby?
I love exposing an Organisation that ruins families to the point of many commiting suicide, an Organisation that has riuned dreams, having children, discouraging education to a level needed.
I think perhaps you forget the gravity of their crimes and fail to see why the anger and exposing goes on against them. It's an evil Organisation.......period!
Gumby
Scoob. I have a large family. Some are still in the borg. I live in an area where I often see jw's.
Hardly a week goes by without something hateful and hurtful coming from some of my children or others in the family, or the jw's I run into. I am reminded constantly of the hateful hurtful actions of the wbts. They participated in the destruction of my marriage, where they could have been a helpful calming influence.
All this because I became enraged over their refusal to act against the elder that molested my daughter. Even though they said they believed two of the accusers out of the five. One of the two was my daughter. Because I didn't show them honor and grovel they df'd me for fits of rage.
I would like to see the man that could go through this and a divorce and the resultant loss of my business all in a 6 month span and not be enraged.
I thoroughly wanted to kill that elder. But I used rage instead. I had to have counseling and anti depressants because I felt like suicide was the best way out.
After all that I fail to see much of anything that is positive from the wbts. Their hate and arrogance overides anything helpful.
It never goes away and unless I move far away and conceal myself from most of my family and am unknown to the local jw's it never will.
Do you wonder why I have only negative feelings for the wbts??
Wake up man.
Outoftheorg
Really - YES
SLANDER - A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel.
Can you show me any posts that provide information that is false
Reality is we don't have to make it up and if someone tries as I said previously someone usually posts that lies don't help. We try very hard to stick to the truth. And believe me the WT provides us plenty of it.
Now the better question might be
Does the truth defame the WTS?
outoftheorg........I don't know the details only the sketch of what you type here. truly awful, and I'm so sorry for that to happen to you and your daughter. I'm lost as to an answer here. I truly hope rage doesn't rule your life from here on in though......peace will come to you I hope soon. Scoob.
Many times in life we find what we are looking for. What we think is there, turns out to be an illusion, or a projection of our hopes and dreams.
Sometimes the trick is knowing whether or not what we are looking for is worthwhile or not.
The Watchtower RUINS lives and FAMILIES.
and that is FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who has the right to say, do not associate with this person, even if they are flesh and blood, shun your parents, shun your family because they do not believe in Jehovah. We the Watchtower are your real family.
It's not hateful pride ............... it's like being robbed, you know who did it, but can't do anything about it.
What you see here is the result of Watchtower trampling. People here are the children of the Watchtower, children trampled and lost.Blame the Watchtower for what you see here.
Absolutely.
How about a warped and perverted view of what genuine LOVE is? Didn't Jesus say, "By their fruits you will recognize them?"
Guest 77
Hello Scooby
I am going to answer your post with your second " Hello" post here to this board, just pointing out a few things that you said:
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/55327/1.ashx
and have even got the "feel" of what different posters are about. I can't honestly say that I feel as most of you do, I still got alot of affection for the witnesses, and what I still believe to be the truth.
I have affecton for the last realitive I have in the "truth" and I can understand why you do not feel as most of us do.
Its very difficult as even though I respect your views and I come here of my own accord,
I respect you for seeking out answers you may not agree with.
I couldn't help feeling as a "lurker" a bit hurt sometimes about things posted. There does seem to be so much anger and bitterness here, and maybe thats where the confusion on my part stems from, I don't think I could ever feel about the JWs as you do (or the GB, the ORG, the "BORG" lol... whatever you call it),
on the whole I have never experienced that, despite problems I have encountered, the elders, brothers and sisters have been nothing but loving and helpful towards me.
Perhaps until you know the harsh reality of the hurt, anger, pain, seperation, that many here have suffered you may find why we think as we do.
Thats not to say that I'm saying points raised here onJWD are invalid, not by any means. I've read so many of yours, and my heart goes out to some of you, .... but its just my own personal experience.
Your personal expierence compared to "mary janes" is the difference, you still feel as if they are loving people and have NOT felt the same hurt as others. Sure your average JW is loving yet those who "run the show" are not as loving as you think. Please research and see that we are telling a "story" that needs to be told so many more do not follow the path to man and not god.
People as you know express their pain in different manners and until you feel the same or walk a mile ( inch) in our, theirs, his, hers, shoes, then you will not know what drives one to say what they do, nor feel what they do.
I however read some such as Nancey Park or Rainbow whatever (the new incarnation) and feel as if this type of approach is indeed WRONG as it depicts "apostates" as sinister liars, exaggerators who have an agenda which is far from most who post here.
Do I feel as if my fellow board members are full of hateful pride? NO, I feel as if they are warning those who have no idea what might befall them in the ORG. The hypocrisy which I am sure you have seen here displayed in the posts on behalf of the WTS is hurtful and angering to those who thought they were following God yet have now found they were following men ( GB ) with "puffed up pride" and anger towards those they did not understand.
Finding you were lied to for years upon years hurts and when one realizes such they become angry, perhaps hateful in some cases yet IMO it's justified anger. To lose a family member, yet now know because the "rules" changed you could now have that baby alive and well but you said "no" to the blood transfusion for and she/he is lost forever.
Cassi
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