Ex-JWs......full of hateful pride ??

by ScoobySnax 36 Replies latest jw friends

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  pettygrudger

  (((IW))))

  My point was that if the Watchtower had been more Christlike and loving, places like this would be non-existent or at least very small.

  No truer words have ever been said. And you are absolutely correct. If that organization had not caused so much pain to so many people, this board just simply wouldn't exist. So you are correct in your original assessment imho.

  My point was, that many different ones own personalities also contribute to these threads. We've all known the arrogant, haughty, self-righteous, trouble makers, game players etc. within the organization. Some of them were bound to show up here too. And in some cases, their true nature continues to shine through, even after they've left the WBTS.
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  Brummie

  JWs......full of hateful pride ??

  That title would have been more honest, Yes they are, and we ex's learned from the best huh???

  Whatever you say in defense of JWs can be said in defense of exjws, blinkered thinking isnt helping you or anyone else. Take the blinkers of and see the rawness of the pain of the majority here, dont mock it, understand it.

  Thing is, when you come amongst exjws you can no longer hide the truth about the Watchtower! Your neighbors might fall for the "loving Watchtower" prank, but an exjw wont. Do you really think its wrong for exjws to share their expereince in that "loving" organisation? If spewing out the truth about the Watchtower is offensive you have to ask yourself why? DO you want us all to lie and pretend we all benifited greatly from being JWs? Who are we pleasing if we do that? The difference between JWs & exJWs is we are not hiding anything, they are.

  Sorry scoobs, if you take this personally then you have another problem to deal with, we are speaking against the Watchtower, not you.

  Perhaps now you have had a sleep you can get back to answering LadyLee's valid points.

  Brummie
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  freein89

  Scooby dooby do, where are you?

  I think the reason you see so much venting here is that where else can we vent? My husband is a good and caring loving husband. But having never been a JW, he simply cannot relate. Neither can anyone else I know. And why don't we see the positive about the JW's? Well that is simple because there just isn't anything positive. Your line of reasoning sounds like me for the last few years of my first marriage. He hit me, he controlled me, he cheated and betrayed me. blah blah blah et cetera and so on, any old how, the last few years I was trying to justify staying in that train wreck I called my marriage. I would call to mind any little kindness he chose to bestow upon me. Because I could not come to terms with the fact that he was a bad man and my marriage was a lie.

  We are not throwing the baby out with the bath water. The org is bad and any relationship with it is a lie founded on lies. How long have you been out Scooby (my son's nickname btw) ? It sounds like you are grieving to me. And there is a lot to grieve, the loss of a way of life.

  Yes there is a lot of pain and anger here, because we have pain and anger in our lives, better out than in, we must spew. But there is plenty of warm and fuzzy, touchy feely stuff here too. We are goin thru a phase here, a big collective phase that involves much anger, don't worry we will get over it.

  Here is a warm and fuzzy, touchy feely hug for you. (wink wink-hubba hubba) Holy Buckets I am in the mood for an emoticon
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  logansrun

  Scooby,

  Do the JWs as a whole and as individuals not also engage in hateful speach? Do they not denigrate all other religions, all political movements, big business (in the days of Rutherford and beyond), many scientists, and anyone else who disagrees with their viewpoints in even the smallest matters? Do they use, as you call it, "emotive language" designed to instill absolute, unquestioning loyalty in it's adherants and a total disdain for the outside world? I agree with you that some here go overboard in their castigation of the Society, but you totally ignored the point I made -- the Society engages in the type of behavior you are describing all the time! Why, oh why, can't you see this?

  Bradley
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  pamkw

  This is one of the few places where you can go and vent. Someone else usually has had an experience close to your own. My own sister does not see the wts the way I do. She has never experienced the shunning and anger of our mother like I have. Why? She was never baptized. Will she go back, no. But she does not have the anger that I have toward it. Yes, I have anger, and I can relate to people who have the same anger. This is where I come to feel better.

  Pam
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  Mecurious?

  To watch this site sometime is painful, it isn't pleasant, infact sometimes it's a hateful place to see. One Ego fighting another even bigger Ego. I wonder of those, if their real desire is to help those who may be hurting. Maybe I'm out of order here, but its just my observation. ExJw "brotherhood" seems not all its cracked up to be either.........

  Very true, some of the people here are as mean and hateful as the Governing Body members. But the only difference is that they are not in the position to lay down stupid, man made rules that destroy lives and marriages while masquerading behind false doctrines and a claim to be Gods only true organization.

  To me they have now formed another even more exclusive club via this forum, its far more exclusive if you don't fit in, and certainly more vicious.

  Again I agree, but this is true no matter where you go. All clubs, organizations, societies have rules of engagement that you must adhere to or suffer ostracism and that’s a fact of life. On this board it's often referred to as trollism, being a Jw apologist, people avoiding your posts, etc.

  What grabs me is the puppeteer (WTBTS) that pulls the strings, and the puppets, move accordingly without voice or dissention.

  Good point. The people here are in no position to really hurt you or millions of others. The WTBTS are and they do. Take for example my sister who refused to take blood and died. Can you imagine how painful it is to lose someone this way, only later to find out that it was completely unnecessary? Countless lives have been lost this way, over some coin flipping bullsh*t, from men who could really care less about you, I or anyone else beside themselves.

  Even though there are some vicious (not all) people on this board, don't give them more power than they have. When you consider the alternative's I think the answer is apparent don't you? This board gets thumbs up from me.

  Merc'
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  micheal

  Chalk this forum up to some venting and alot of therapy. The pain and the extreme hurt all of us here have felt from being betrayed, lied too, shunned by family and friends is very very great. As far as an emotional and mental standpoint we have been abused immensley. So when you can freely speak your mind and your heart without being harshly judged that's what we are doing. To a large extent this very good for us, who else will listen?