Northern girl,
Check your pm.
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How Sad
by Ariell 67 Replies latest jw friends
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DannyBear
This thread has turned the corner for the good....
Iam actually enjoying reading Ng's replies
Iam starting to understand where Ng is coming from. Having been df'd myself some 23 yrs ago. Correct me if Iam wrong Ng, even though you were thrown out, you still really believe the jw doctrine.(?)
Maybe your exposure to this site has awakened some suppressed doubts, or at least drawn some to your attention. Believe me most of us will relate if that is true.
Having the paradise earth rug pulled out from under you, is no picnic. The jw's are really no different than any other religion, preaching a life after death reward. Just a different approach, style. It all ends up in the same basket........someone (usually a crusty old 'white' man, or group of crusty old) sitting in their 'armchairs' with delusions of God's special favor upon them.
Funny isn't it, that the majority of these religious leader's like Russell, were charismatic, with money enough to spread their message.
People throughout the ages have turned over their lives and fortunes for just the PROMISE of paradise. Is it any wonder 6 million have as jw's........not really.
Good to see you responding with reasoned replies.
Danny
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northern girl
Danny:
I just had a long exchange typed to you and it disappeared when I went to send it.
Briefly now I will say that I am always reasonable in my replies. I use the same tone the person uses with me.
I do still believe all the doctrines of the JWs and reading so many posts here hasn't changed me. The paradise rug has not been pulled from beneath me. I see it as ascriptural promise and fully expect it to happen.
The one thing that baffles me here is the vast amount of past suffering at the hands of JWs. This is so foreign to me as our cong, was like our extended family. Anyway, I plan to keep reading lots of posts and trying my hardest not to ruffle too many feathers. If I do there are plenty of you here to set me straight.
northern girl
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DannyBear
Ng,
****I see it as ascriptural promise and fully expect it to happen****
I can only say I hope your expectations are fulfilled. I could only hope to be so convinced. For the prospect of a paradise earth is indeed a beautiful concept.
****The one thing that baffles me here is the vast amount of past suffering at the hands of JWs. This is so foreign to me as our cong, was like our extended family.****
Funny, my youngest daughter, still a jw said apprx the same thing to me very recently. I had forwarded a sad story related here that I thought mirrored her own experience as a jw youth. She wrote me back saying that the elders in her congregation handled her with much love and affection..........so I can relate to your having a hard time with some of the stories related here.
Anyway the fact that you are here tells me that you are searching for answers. The questions you have may not be obvious to me or others, but I think you have some issues not fully resolved. Am I right?
Danny
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outoftheorg
NG, I, in another thread, accused you of whining. I retract my statement.
In your posts here you seem reasonable and thoughtful.
I sense in you a rather sad person. I may be wrong of course. But I sense an angry and sad person.
If this is true, I hope you get past this and have all the wonderful things this life can offer.
If I hurt your feelings in the previous thread I am sorry.
Outoftheorg
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northern girl
Danny:
Of course You are right ... I have unresolved issues. Who hasn't?
I've pretty well laid out my past here but will review a bit.
I lived for years (eons?) in a happy, loving family and cong. In my teenage years (when I knew better than anyone) I became rebellious and left the group. I teetered on the fence for years but was df'ed for smoking.
Now, in looking back I realize what I've given up and want more than anything to get back 'in'. I quit smoking two years ago and when I was sure I was 'cured' I started going back to meetings. Wish I could say I was met with wide open arms but the expected happened and of course I feel like a piece of crap sitting there. The hardest part is the looking away when eye contact is made.
The experiences I've read about here don't bode well for me but I have to keep trying because I want what I had.
Life sure is not simple ... is it?
northern girl
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unbeliever
Northern-
Will you still post here if/when you get reinstated?
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northern girl
outoftheorg:
Yes, you were quite rude to me ... and apology accepted.
northern girl
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gumby
Boy aren't the witnesses wacky!
What they really should believe in, is that Jesus is coming real soon now because of foretold events, and the way things are shaping up in Israel. Jesus will be here soon.
When he comes.....the little girl in the wheelchair will be lifted up to heaven and be in peaceful conditions with the lord for eternity.
How sad the witnesses teach the awfull lie of living forever on this planet when they really should be believing they will not live on this planet forever. They should be believing that soon god is going to take his church up to heaven on a cloud so they can watch tribulation on the earth for all the other losers that god will kill.
Fundies are no different than dubs in this matter. Give it a rest. One lie is simply traded for another, then the former lie is made fun of.
Gumby
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northern girl
unbeliever:
The jury is still out on that one.
northern girl