by RAYZORBLADE 32 Replies latest jw friends
When I first came to the Net in '95 I stumbled across an ex-JW site (I forget the name now). The comments were so caustic that I left thinking that all I had heard about "Apostates" was true. It wasn't until six years later, when I decided to leave the JW's that I finally ventured to find such information again (and it was still a shocking experience).
1995 - Slayed
2001 - Stayed
LITTLE TOE, You just proved that the ressurection is real!
SP,
I totally agree with you, I have made apologies in person to some of those here and I have also made a couple of public apologies. So I am not anyone beyond saying I am sorry at all. Yes I do believe in forgiving and forgetting it is commanded me to do so. I am noone special here and none better than anyone else, I am just a man who went through real hell from the borg..and my borg family...If anyone wants to know they can go to my thread history and read them to know what I went through, maybe some should as they would know why I am sometimes to over offensive. I'm sorry but I have been severly hurt by JW's and by the ones that I could still love even though I would not be involved, boy was I wrong, yeah I have been stiffened by them and they have made me rough and it has become an everyday battle with myself and with others to break this shell they have caused me to build around myself. I don't know if anyone can understand what I am saying and maybe some cannot until they have walked in my shoes. I have seen things in my life that haunt me to this day, things that would make most people puke, I have done things in my life that are regretful, I have suffered some very tragic health issues and to be perfectly honest I am just a old broken down man both physically and emotionally. I take some very strong pain medications that cause my mind to drift but I leave it all to God and Christ to save me from the pits that I have endured inmylife...
KGB-
I wasn't asking about you specifically, just forgiving and forgetting in general. But I'll use you as an example since you did.
Yes I do believe in forgiving and forgetting it is commanded me to do so.
So if a person asked for your forgiveness, let's say in a PM, you would PM this person back and try to work on a more civil relationship? It's actions like this that keep people coming back to this site. It's what helps people to STAY.
I had nobody to talk to about "it" Those in don't want to hear you, those out don't know what the hell you are talking about.
Yeah, what smack said. Robyn too.
This is funny. There are now so many threads on "how to be nice to each other and newbies", I am getting worried. I feel a song from "The Sound of Music" coming on.....Doe a Deer I think....
When I first lurked, the flame wars were hot and steady. Many of those posters are gone. Many still post here. I stayed, watched and decided who was a dickhead and who was not.
Frankly, my opinion of those that are still here has not changed. There are jerks, nice people and everything in between. There are young people who feel that their 20 years on earth has given them the insight and perspective to run the world. Go for it. (That, BTW, is sarcasm)
There are always going to be disagreements. Newbies will realize this when they take a step back and think. "Oh, yeah. People on a DB are like they are in life. Jerks, nice and in-between. I just have to learn to deal with it. Like everything else."
Like we all did.
Just my .02
Teeny-
There are young people who feel that their 20 years on earth has given them the insight and perspective to run the world.
Hasn't it?
SP,
Yes I would and I have........................
I figured this post would die ages ago. On-line shelf life of mere minutes.
Anyways KGB, thanks for your insightful post.
Honestly, this forum is mild if not tame compared to other forums: not xjw forums - ANY forum, sports, health & fitness, automotive etc., where people have the chainsaws humming 24/7.
This place is overall, pretty damn good.
There are enough insightful people who can rally around a newbie and basically help them along until their shields/helmets are firmly fastened.
Some of us will remain, some will move on, some may even return to the JWs (sadder still). But, that is the way it is.
Glad many here stay, as opposed to slay-ing newbies and newly exited JWs (possible apologists for awhile).
Thanks to everyone for their input.
HEY, RAZORBLADE
What DREW me here?
a recommendation from someone who knew about this site
What KEEPS me here?
For now, since i am new.. I'm am AMAZED that I have found people who think like ME!!!!!!!.
SMACK:
I concur with what smack said. ONce disfellowshipped "No one in will talk to you, and no one out knows what the hell you are talking about"
It's lonely, when you have no one who speaks your language or no one who thinks about things the way you do.
Special K
I started out on the old H2O, and finally came here. I get busy and forget about the board sometimes, then I think, hey! I wonder what's going on. Then I come back. It is a little addicting, wanting to know how everyone is, and who is going to yell at who. But I like it. And as not even my sister understands how I feel about jws (she still see some good in them) I come here to talk to people who understand. I've made friends here and you can never have enough of that.
Pam
