The Governing body are murderers

by Brummie 32 Replies latest watchtower scandals

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    I got the shivers last night when I happened on a TV program depicting a British surgeon doing work in Africa.
    The patient was a JW, complete with NWT and reasoning book, spouting off scripture. She later died from a post-op infection.
    It wasn't the op that killed her, nor the blood-loss, but you have to wonder how much it had weakened her for the following infection.

    The overall flavour of the program was that the surgeon would do everything possible to help this individual, even accomodation their beliefs, even though it was more tiring for the staff, and more dangerous for the patient.

    It was sad seeing the footage,of a poor girl who was spouting that stuff, and later knowing that she was in a box.

  • IslandWoman
    IslandWoman

    Yes, Brummie, I agree. The Governing Body are murderers. But not just the Governing Body, every brother at Bethel in a position of knowledge and responsibility is also a murderer.

    I pray that God will pay them back, eye for eye.

    Thank you for this thread.

    IW

  • Brummie
    Brummie

    lol @dannybear...aint no one got the rights to kick a cat, especially the young whippersnappers.

    Xena I have a niggling doubt too.

    LT, its when you see it in action that makes you realise how evil the doctrine is. I saw the USA emergency room video and it showed 2 witnesses dying by refusing blood. It hit it home to me that this is murder. Plus we have good freinds and a 2nd cousin & her baby who died this same way. I cant think of a more descriptive word than murderers.

    But not just the Governing Body, every brother at Bethel in a position of knowledge and responsibility is also a murderer.

    I agree IW, perhaps they are murderers accomplist (sp) rather than murderers, still responsible though.

    Brummie

  • Mr. Kim
    Mr. Kim

    Brummie,

    I hear you. I perfer to say "BLOOD GUILTY." The GB is responsible for a lot of pain and surrering in all forms, shapes, and sizes (and so are the elders).

    Justice will come when the time is right.----So say a horseman that has awakened. Now for the other three to awake. When the "leader" arrives, that will make five. Yes, there are five.

    Mr. Kim

    #1

  • logansrun
    logansrun

    Yes, Brummie, I agree. They're ninth-degree murderers.

    Bradley

    PS -- Do you hate me or just can't stand me?

  • Mr. Kim
    Mr. Kim

    That word should be "suffering". The GB is responsible for a lot of pain and surrering in all forms, shapes, and sizes (and so are the elders).

    It pays to proof read. Not bad for just talking to a computer and NO typing!!

  • Brummie
    Brummie

    Thanks Mr Kim, I agree with you in the sense that a lot of self rightous murderers also inflict a lot of pain & suffering on their victims directly or indirectly. Re: Malawi. But I like your balanced perspective, I try to remain balanced but am known to disappoint.

    PS -- Do you hate me or just can't stand me?

    Logan are we talking 1st degree hate or 9th degree or 29th degree? or would that just be a stupid question or statement? hate brings the same bitter feelings in whatever stage, same as murder really, yah that just sounds stupid doesnt it?

    Fact is, I have no dark opinion of you at present, I certainly dont hate you, you will have to work a little harder before I even dislike you. I dont respect your opinions on recent subjects but yada yada

    Brummie

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    Personally !! I feel I too am a murderer if they are. You see I backed them up all the way... When my daughter was to be operated on. I would have let her die( sorry! truth) The Dr said he would only operate if we signed for a blood transfussion if it was needed.Fortunatly I had an unbelieving husband He made the decission - So she didnt have the operation -( evidently didnt need it in the end she was 11 yrs old then)But I earnestly taught all they teach. I believe they too are followers of followers as we were.When I think how many souls I converted to bondage I still feel extremly guilty- ( some died as JWS). We have to remember ( I still believe in God)The way we are judging is the way we will be judged> If I called them murderers It would be like the pot calling the Kettle black..I know darling Brummie this will confuse you about me. But I cannot see how anyone can continue doing such evil if they did know the evil they are doing ..Isnt that what they are BLIND-??? would you condem a blind man cos he cant see?No well they are BLIND>>>>((((HUG))) I love you

  • Brummie
    Brummie

    (((Mouthy))) You already know that I have the utmost respect for you

    1st of all I respectfully disagree, 1st, we could call the doctors murderers because they refused to administer the blood. But they are not, because their hands were tied and they simply could not perform their duty. The JW who dies have their hands & minds tied. They are victims same as you were a victim. The GB are not followers of themselves, they are the ones who lay down these unbiblical doctrines and go about changing thier minds later at their lesiure. They should have examined all avenues before they even opened their killer mouth.

    2) Isnt that what they are BLIND-??? would you condem a blind man cos he cant see?No well they are BLIND

    I certainly would not condemn a blind man who accidently shot me in the foot, grace at all costs. But I would condemn him if he took a knife and deliberately stabbed me and my family over and over again while shouting "This is a mistake".

    I do not believe they are blind. Remember Bill Cetnars story? He went to the place where they make vaccinations and asked them where is the blood that goes into these vacs? They said there wasnt any blood. Bill then went and passed that message on to the GB, so they knew their doctrine was wrong. Did they immediately send for all CO's & DO's and get the message around quickly that JWs could have vaccinations? Nope. But they could have, it took them approx 1 week to get the message around to all the UK CO's & DO's that Bill Bowen was going to be at the UK Bethel. They even called an emergency meeting to let all the elders know that they were not guilty of protecting child abusers. Why couldnt they have done the same with Organ transplanst & Vaccinations?

    All congregations knew that Panorama was going to show on TV, it was announced from the platform, they could have quickly dont the same with Vacs, serums, organ transplants and even now with the blood fractions being allowed. Yet they make no such move, its only been recently that JWs are beggining to realise that blood fractions are allowed.

    My point is, they were not blind, they knew their doctrine would still be causing death yet they made no big move to correct it but let it filter through the magazines at a lesiurely pace. Yep they are murders.

    Remember also that a couple of years later that there were still missionaries in prison who had not been informed of the change.

    They were also murderers during the Malawi events but that is just another one of their fatal practices.

    I dont say we are all not responsible for the things we do, when my Grandmother was going into have an operation I was the first one to make sure they were aware of my grans stance on blood. I would have felt guilty if she had died due to then blood issue but at the end of the day, my hands were tied as was my mind. Just like the doctors.

    Brummie

  • plmkrzy
    plmkrzy

    ((((MOUTHY))))

    I can understand your point. It is a tough topic to say the very least.But the GB is wrong telling people they will be destroyed forever if they accept a blood transfusion. They are wrong to disfellowship people who do.

    The matter should be left up to the individual to decide. The GB has "taken" the responsibility for making the decision without accepting responsibility for it. That in itself is a sin.

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