"God views apostacy as a much graver sin than pedophilia" (page 4)

Big Tex

Agreed, but really this is no different than the Protestant and Catholics, or for that matter any number of schisms among the Protestants in the past few hundreds of years. Everyone who leaves is viewed as a heretic (apostate) and they will burn in hell forever for being so evil as to stand against God's chosen one >fill in the blank<.

Or for that matter it's no different than how Muslims, Jews, Hindus and Christians view each other. It's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

Just because someone says God hates me simply because I don't go to their particular religious franchise, doesn't make it so. Now if or when a burning bush appears to me, or the heavens part and a giant finger points at me followed by a booming voice, okay then I'll listen. But until then . . .

Brummie

Now if or when a burning bush appears to me, or the heavens part and a giant finger points at me followed by a booming voice, okay then I'll listen

Lol...listen? I would simply die on the spot.

Brummie

waiting

Hey Uzzah,

Point taken - with the exception of my post in this thread, which is closely in line with your post.

Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example. Mark Twain

*sigh*

waiting

mizpah

It is true that Jehovah's Witnesses put disfellowshipping offenses in degrees. And apostasy ranks the highest. Some years ago a group of friends, all who had been disfellowshipped, met together. One woman who had been df'd for "adultery" seriously said to the rest of us that we were far worse off than she because we had been df'd for "apostasy." I thought to myself this woman is going to return to the organization one day. And sure enough, a few years later we heard she had done just that.

The rest of us who were there had made a conscious decision that the Watchtower Society was not God's organization. We were not Christian apostates as each of us still maintained our Christ faith in God and Christ. We were only Watchtower "apostates" because we rejected the Watchtower claim of being "God's organization." She, on the other hand, had morally violated a Christian principle.

It was always significant to me that she alone among us returned to the Watchtower. The rest of us had rejected the Watchtower precisely because we saw that it was not a christian organization. All of us wear our badge of "Watchtower Apostates" with pride. It means that we made our decisions based on sound Christian principles that allowed us to choose Christ over a human organization.

berylblue

"God views apostacy as a much graver sin than pedophilia, and that is a biblical fact."

In the Bible it states that 'ones who have tasted the heavenly gift and turn away have NO FORGIVNESS of sins left'. They have trampled on the son with full knowledge.( in dubland this applies the the annointed)
Many witnesses view a turning away from the organisation is such a sin, though they know it applies to the "annointed" in their book.

(Italics and bold mine)

Hold on here, for a minute.

I never noticed this before, most likely because I was told it meant all those who were baptized. Not just annointed. Baptized. And, according to some Witnesses, even those who had stuided and rejected the "truth".

Wow. This is a mind blower.

(A side point: All the POSITIVE scriptures, meaning those from which I drew comfort, I was told applied only to the annointed. At one point, I just kind of threw up my mental hands, thinking, "Well what am I reading this for? It doesn't apply to me". I was told, however, that the prinicples in those scriptures did applied to me, meaning...

All the NEGATIVE scritpures applied to me.

They get you coming and going, don't they?

No wonder I was so downhearted as a JW. I can't believe I fell for all that garbage.

The "truth" has, indeed, "set me free".)

Rosemarie

Big Tex

They (with rare exception) all now can be found to be taking a shot at the male species either as an over-riding theme of the post or in some kind of jab that at times is completely irrelevant

Not if you wear a kilt and have very sexy legs.

berylblue

All of us wear our badge of "Watchtower Apostates" with pride

Gotta tell, you, Mizpah, I'm beginning to.

waiting

tex - your marriage must be fraught with trouble.....I've seen pictures of both of you. Well, only you in a skirt.

Your spouse should be attractive enough to turn you on. Anything more is trouble. - Albert Brooks (a man)

o uzzah, I can't resist.

More husbands would leave home if they knew how to pack their suitcases. - Leopold Fetchner (another man)

lost cause waiting

Big Tex

Okay waiting, I'll see that and raise you:

Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months
--Oscar Wilde

Thinking men cannot be ruled.
--Ayn Rand

waiting

A man with pierced ears is better prepared for marriage. He's already experienced pain and brought jewellery. - Rita Rudner (a woman)

Only a flaw of fate prevented Vita Sackville-West from being one of nature's gentlemen. - Edith Sitwell (a woman)

A man's womenfolk, whatever their outward show of respect for his merit and authority, always regard him secretly as an ass, and with something akin to pity. HL Menken (a man)

See? It's not just me. I'll do penance tomorrow, Uzzah. Promise. Well, I'll try anyway.

And you, tex, are just a boy in a skirt when it comes to sarcasm. Stll cute though.

"God views apostacy as a much graver sin than pedophilia"

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