Couldn't agree with you more Simon. He's a disgrace for sure. Talking with a liver surgeon from the Cleveland clinic and they are just as pissed off at Trump as we are with Trudeau. Right now the hospital nurses have been wearing the same low grade masks for over a week because that is what they were told to do. Now everyone is scrambling for masks because Trump is saying it's up to everyone if they want to wear a mask or not. It's their choice. People have to stop relying on their governments as to when they can be safe or not. If you have a gut feeling go with it!
3M Corporation-- You are Absolutely DISGUSTING - I hope you are sitting down when reading this
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Simon
At this point this whole circus is political. The US is nowhere near having a shortage of masks. With proper rationing of masks and given the current rate of growth is slowing, it's unlikely we'll need ALL of them.
I think a lot of places want to get more than their fair share - what better than to use up federal reserves and keep your own state reserves in tact, so that your own state does better?
The point of the federal reserves is to act as a last back-stop, not the first stop supply.
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Anony Mous
@Simon and @newsheep: that's the problem with government though. There is no such thing as a smart government action, it's too big and slow to do anything effective so it sucks at everything.
There's also a bunch of finger pointing, hospitals are rationing use of PPE because they fear they don't have enough in case of major swell in cases, they blame the government for not giving them free ones, the government blames the hospitals for not being ready or able to give the population free care. Nurses are pointing at their leadership for not giving them enough masks, leadership is pointing at onerous OSHA legislation that made it so they got used to using dozens of masks per day, even if medically unnecessary, the unions are saying not-for-profit hospitals are money-grubbing oligarchs that don't care about their staff.
The hospital ship in NYC is pretty much empty (yesterday it had 8 patients, it can take thousands) so they blame NY for not sending people there, DeBlasio and Cuomo blame the military for being too strict about testing patients.
And when it comes to supply, if the Federal government giveth, then the states will never lift a finger. JFK created a ton of federal mental health institutions because states were complaining about shortages. As a result, state-ran institutions closed because it was now the federal government's problem. A few decades later this snowballs into basically those systems that JFK had funded being the only remaining mental health facilities in the US. And this story plays out again and again.
Big government is never the solution. People want to use this situation to expand government and give more free stuff. People are now talking about making the $2T stimulus package a permanent monthly expense for the Feds (Universal Basic Income), right after a crisis that was partially exacerbated by a government too big to respond coherently - in every interview in January across both aisles, interviews with FDA officials, CDC officials, even Fauci himself, more time was spent on impeachment instead of how people were dying in China. The CDC and FDA that couldn't legally do anything for a full month because it hadn't put the right forms through the system, and every meeting that they had in the first month was torpedoed by officials arguing about how doing anything (closing borders, warning hospitals) was a power grab by the president. You want this government to grow and provide everyone with income?
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UnshackleTheChains
The federal govt needs to set u alternative manufacturers to get these masks out and put 3M out of business. Assholes
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hoser
Honeywell, Kimberly Clark makes n95 masks, so do about 8 other us companies
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Simon
The federal govt needs to set u alternative manufacturers to get these masks out and put 3M out of business. Assholes
If your solution to a shortage of vital equipment is to put the major manufacturer of that equipment out of business, well, you might want to rethink your strategy and don't expect to win my vote if you run for office.